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::: I do agree that grammatical correctness is not defined by concensus--it's defined by what people actually do (Ptcamn, is that what you mean by it being 'an objective thing'?). I agree with Ptcamn's proposed changes above. Just because people agreed it was incorrect doesn't mean it was--it is quite normal that how people speak, and how they think they speak are quite different. Actually, I'd like to see someone characterise exactly what it is about the construction that is grammatically incorrect. [[User:Dougg|Dougg]] 00:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Grammatical correctness is not defined by consensus, but standards of what is considered grammatically correct are. Speakers of the language actually define the grammar, but grammar lawyers are the ones who point out what is and isn't correct (according to their learnéd opinions).
:::: What I'm trying to say is: even back then, the phrase might have been grammatically correct (in the sense of "everyone was using it and only the pundits were complaining based on some argument with no basis in fact") but that doesn't mean it wasn't ''considered'' grammatically incorrect by said pundits. [[User:194.151.6.67|194.151.6.67]] 11:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it ''is'' explained: like should not be used as a conjunction in this sense, but replaced with as. In any case, I do propose that any changes we do to that section be written out here and discussed before being changed. [[User:Mike Halterman|Mike H.]] [[User talk:Mike Halterman|I did "That's hot" first!]] 01:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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