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*'''Delete and apply strong creation protection'''. I am from the Nim community and feel like I have constructive input here, but feel free to delete this if it's not in line with this discussion's standards. We cannot expect Wikipedia to bend its content standards for this article, and from the discussion on this page that standard seems to be that the article needs to cite academic sources and people are having a hard time finding academic sources to cite here. If that is the standard then I'll argue that this page will never be able to meet that standard, because due to Nim's properties it is unlikely to ever be used seriously in an academic environment. In light of that I recommend '''Delete and apply strong creation protection''' as there is no use in recreating this page in the future since the content standards can never be met. [[User:Philip.wernersbach|Philip.wernersbach]] ([[User talk:Philip.wernersbach|talk]]) 19:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
*:The sources don't need to be academic - they just need to pass Wikipedia's [[WP:RS|reliable sources guideline]]. For example, news articles on tech news sites would do nicely, as would books with titles like "Nim for Dummies". (It doesn't need to be the whole book, either - a page or two would be enough.) — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 04:42, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
*::Hmm... If the sources don't need to be academic then the page may be able to meet Wikipedia's standards at some point in the future. I'm keeping with my vote for now though. Nim currently has a lot of content published about it, but it's all self-published. For instance, Andrea Ferretti wrote a neutral Nim vs Rust comparison at https://andreaferretti.github.io/on-rust-and-nim/, but it's self-published and thus unusable as a source. Andreas Rumpf gave a presentation at StrangeLoop about Nim and why its meta programming capabilities are important (available at http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nimrod), which means that someone at StrangeLoop looked over his presentation and decided it was notable enough for a talk. However, Andreas Rumpf is the creator of Nim so this source cannot be used as well because it violates viewpoint neutrality. [[User:Philip.wernersbach|Philip.wernersbach]] ([[User talk:Philip.wernersbach|talk]]) 19:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'd like to bring attention to a somewhat urgent issue. The current page was invalidly copy-paste restored from the draft article [[Draft:Nim (programming language)]]. I've elaborated and put more details on the article talk page: [[Talk:Nim_(programming_language)#Invalid_restore_from_draft]]. [[User:Erik.Bjareholt|Erik.Bjareholt]] ([[User talk:Erik.Bjareholt|talk]]) 11:14, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
*:Apparently not '''too''' bad if the closing admin considers history merges as challenge: Before 2015-02-17 the relevant history is in the old article (=draft), then that was copied wholesale to the new page as shown in your diff replacing the new stub, and the relevant editing continued on the new page. –[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 23:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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