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:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 11:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

== extra text in |edition= detection bug ==

There is a bug in the extra text detector. The current detector was intended to find {{para|edition|2nd ed.}} which would render as

:{{cite book |title=Title |edition=2nd ed.}}

But, it also finds the 'ed' at the end of illustrated, revised, etc:

:{{cite book |title=Title |edition=revised}}

So, I've adjusted the test:

:{{cite book/new |title=Title |edition=2nd ed.}} – should find 'ed.'

:{{cite book/new |title=Title |edition=revised}} – should not find 'ed'

—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 11:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

:I'm still seeing the error raised with "revised": <code><nowiki>{{Cite book|authorlink=Maynard Solomon|last=Solomon|first=Maynard|title=Beethoven|edition=2nd revised|___location=New York|publisher=Schirmer Books|year=2001|isbn=0-8256-7268-6}}</nowiki></code>:

:*{{Cite book|authorlink=Maynard Solomon|last=Solomon|first=Maynard|title=Beethoven|edition=2nd revised|___location=New York|publisher=Schirmer Books|year=2001|isbn=0-8256-7268-6}} <-- shows "{{Font color|green|CS1 maint: Extra text}} ([[:Category:CS1 maint: Extra text|link]])"

:but not in {{tl|Cite book/new}}:

:*{{Cite book/new|authorlink=Maynard Solomon|last=Solomon|first=Maynard|title=Beethoven|edition=2nd revised|___location=New York|publisher=Schirmer Books|year=2001|isbn=0-8256-7268-6}}

:Any reason why {{tl|Cite book/new}} cannot be deployed? -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 13:42, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

::{{tlx|cite book/new}} is the same as {{tlx|cite book}} except that it uses the sandbox version of [[Module:Citation/CS1]]. Because every change to the live module dumps a couple of million articles on the job queue, we collect multiple changes in the sandbox before updating the live module.

::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 14:44, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

== AWB or bot opportunity to fix 1000+ missing author errors ==

There are over 1,000 (around 1,200, I think) articles on towns in India that have citations with a {{para|first}} but no {{para|last}}. I have changed a few hundred of these from {{para|first}} to {{para|publisher}}, but my fingers are getting tired. If someone with AWB or some nice bot code wants to have a go at them, do a search for this:

insource:/\|first=Registrar General...Census Commissioner, India/

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uttangi&diff=prev&oldid=675307661 Here] is a sample change.

If it would help to have a list of these article titles, let me know, and I'll compile one. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

:Note that since the most recent edit to the CS1 module, these citations with a {{para|first}} but no {{para|last}} no longer generate a missing author error. The example article you give no longer shows a missing author error if you look at the revision[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uttangi&oldid=524465858] immediately before your edit. The count of articles populating {{cl|CS1 errors: missing author or editor}} has dropped precipitously since the recent edit to the CS1 module, from almost 9000 articles to a current count of roughly 1300. [[User:Stamptrader|Stamptrader]] ([[User talk:Stamptrader|talk]]) 00:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

::Fixed in the sandbox. See [[Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Missing_author_without_error_message|Missing author without error message]]

::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 00:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

:::True, but these are definitely errors, and they are all of the same type, so a script or bot should be able to fix them quickly and easily. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 03:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

== DOI throwing an error ==

{{Disregard|PEBCAK!}}

The DOI found [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19236565 here] is not accepted by the DOI checking code called by {{tlx|Cite journal}}. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ </span> 16:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

:(Edit conflict: Trappist, you accidentally removed my earlier comment.)

:Looks ok to me: {{cite journal

| last1 = Pérez-García | first1 = Alejandro

| last2 = Romero | first2 = Diego

| last3 = Fernández-Ortuño | first3 = Dolores

| last4 = López-Ruiz | first4 = Francisco

| last5 = De Vicente | first5 = Antonio

| last6 = Torés | first6 = Juan A.

| doi = 10.1111/j.1364-3703.2008.00527.x

| issue = 2

| journal = Molecular Plant Pathology

| pages = 153–160

| title = The powdery mildew fungus Podosphaera fusca (synonym ''Podosphaera xanthii''), a constant threat to cucurbits

| volume = 10

| year = 2009}} Maybe you're incorrectly including the period that pubmed puts after it? —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 17:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

::Not intentionally.

::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 17:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

:Don't include the terminal period that PubMed includes:

::{{cite journal |title=Title |journal=Journal |doi=10.1111/j.1364-3703.2008.00527.x.}}

:The doi checking code looks for a terminal comma or period. If one of those is found, the code emits the error message. Was the [[Help:CS1_errors#bad_doi|help text]] insufficient to the task?

:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 17:06, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

:@David: Ah, yeah, that would be it. Derp. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ </span> 17:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

:@Trappist: Yeah, it says "Check {{para|doi}} value ([[Help:CS1_errors#bad_doi|help]])", and I looked at the help but somehow did not see "does not end with punctuation". Total PEBCAK on my part. Time for coffee. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ </span> 17:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)