Talk:Cantor's first set theory article: Difference between revisions

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With the aid of Carl and William's comments, I wrote a new sentence that eliminates two flaws. First, the new sentence just mentions the analysis of Cantor's article and not its conclusion. It's not the job of the lead to announce the conclusion of a detailed analysis. Later, the article discusses this conclusion and the disagreement about Cantor's proof. Second, I've added a reference to an article containing an analysis similar to the one presented in this Wikipedia article. --[[User:RJGray|RJGray]] ([[User talk:RJGray|talk]]) 21:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== Re-evaluating refs in lead ==

I've been looking over the references in the lead using [[WP:LEAD#Citations]], which says (among other things):

* "The verifiability policy advises that material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and direct quotations, should be supported by an inline citation."

* "Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material."

* "The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus."

I removed one ref (1st sentence, 2nd paragraph) because the presence of Cantor's existence proof in the article is not controversial, it's well covered by the refs in the following two sentences (which include text about the proof), and it's redundant (it shows up twice in "The article" section).

The ref at the end of the first paragraph is also a candidate for removal since it doesn't seem controversial. There's one ref in the 3rd paragraph. I'm leaning towards keeping it since it's a bit surprising, not commonly known, and did not appear in the literature until 1976. Anyone have thoughts about these two refs or about removing other refs or adding refs in the lead? Thanks, --[[User:RJGray|RJGray]] ([[User talk:RJGray|talk]]) 19:28, 29 April 2016 (UTC)