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Incidentally, the ''Dnepropetrovsk'' is assumed by the editors of ''gorod.dp.ua'' to be the primary English spelling; they have assumed the ''Dnepropetrovsk'' for French and, and ''Dniepropetrovsk'' for Spanish.--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] ([[User talk:Toddy1|talk]]) 17:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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==Dnepropetrovsk - deletion of street map and photos what you call "ugly houses"==
Dima - have you ever been to Dnepropetrovsk? Don't you think that there should be pictures of normal apartment buildings? Or should it only show photos of apartment buildings for the very rich?
Maybe we should show only a fantasy version of Dnepropetrovsk - one with clean air, houses for millionaires, with well-repaired streets, and great public transport. In real life it takes someone who lives in Gladkova Street an hour to get by minibus to city centre during peak periods. (The journey is less than 10 minutes by taxi mid-morning.)
Also - don't you think that it is useful to be able to find a street map? Actually street maps are rather more useful that local government websites. When I looked in 2004, it was absolutely impossible to find a street map using Google - I just got adverts from travel companies. Unless Wikipedia helps people to find street map URLs, the easiest way to find them is to buy a paper map at a market stall in Dnepropetrovsk!
--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] 05:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:No I have not. I have lived only in Kiev in Ukraine. I dont't believe that we should show these apartment buildings.. Why uglyfy the article with old houses when words can do just about the same? If we decide to write an "architecture" section for the city, then perhaps we can write about what are the housing conditions, including the old and the new. I know that these "ugly houses" are commonly seen throught the city, and probably in most cities in the former Soviet Union..
:Yes, the transport does take a lot of time, but look at what we have done at [[Kiev#Local transportation]] section... just included some text describing the conditions of transport, no images:
::<blockquote>''...while the other kinds of public transport are '''not that well maintained'''. In particular, the public bus service '''fails to maintain''' its schedule. Public electric trolleybus and tram lines are more reliable, but are also '''technically obsolete and underfunded'''.''</blockquote>
:I agree, it is useful to have a streetmap.. I only removed it from the infobox, which should only contain either "official link" or something like Verkhovna Rada link... If one wants to see more links, they can scroll down to the "External links" section instead. BTW, I would suggest that you upload your images to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Wikimedia Commons] so that other language projects can use your images. —[[User:DDima|dima]]'''''[[User talk:DDima|/s-ko/]]''''' 02:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[[User:DDima| Dima]] Thank you for your reply. I have been editting and uploading photos showing the architecture of the city, and when I have a good selection, I will create an architecture section.--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] 05:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:Just keep in mind that WP articles are not galleries. Pictureless articles are not nice but articles cluttered with images are even worse. The number of pictures the article can accommodate depends on the amount of text. Nothing can prevent you from uploading as many pictures as you would like, but please include only as many as reasonable into the article. --[[User:Irpen|Irpen]] 06:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:: I agree. I'm shocked with [[Odessa]] article content - so many pictures. --[[User:TAG.Odessa|TAG]] 12:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I have added images to the article (historial, architectural, ect.) so now it should be pretty balanced. I agree Odessa has '''''way''''' too many pictures.. need of cleanup. —[[User:DDima|dima]]'''''[[User talk:DDima|/s-ko/]]''''' 02:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I like it that the article on Odessa has all these pictures - though they are a bit ''Hello''-magazine-like. One puzzle, why are there no pictures showing the houses people live in?--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] 21:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
: We have WikiCommons for pictures. There are simply no way to put all "nice" photos in one articles ! --[[User:TAG.Odessa|TAG]] 21:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There are plenty of "nice" photos. Can we have some that show what it is '''really''' like pls.--[[User:20.133.0.14|20.133.0.14]] 12:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
: Please add any "nice" or not pictures to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dnipropetrovsk Category:Dnipropetrovsk] at [[Wikimedia Commons]]--[[User:TAG.Odessa|TAG]] 13:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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