Talk:Lateralization of brain function/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

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I've rewritten this part of the page to better reflect recent findings. I'll look over the rest of the page to fix any other issues as well, seeing as this is recent research. [[User:Countered|Countered]] ([[User talk:Countered|talk]]) 00:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

:Cool! [[User:Looie496|Looie496]] ([[User talk:Looie496|talk]]) 03:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

== lateralization differences between men and women ==

''Copied from my (Lova Falk's) talk page into this page, concerning [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lateralization_of_brain_function&diff=575422593&oldid=573213501 this edit] with the following edit summary "One single study cannot refute accepted knowledge. You need a review of all study results that concludes that these differences don't exist.":''

I suppose I understand the bureaucratic nature and necessity of such a system, but how does one fit the facts into these goal posts which could seemly move depending on an individuals personal understanding of each bit of research? At which point is enough research enough to negate past research? The article you linked me was interesting - yet it seemingly supports my addition to the page because not only was the primary source peer-reviewed by experts in the field, but has been talked about in almost 20 or more secondary sources, and has been cited by quite a few papers. Such a subjective system seems quite contradictory to science and the pursuit of knowledge because one can claim that no valid scientific consensus has been reached how ever much they want, moving those posts as wide as they wish. Furthermore, the article linked also states that one should use the most up to date information - which is included in the study I cited.

Secondly, the study itself shows directly that lateralization in both men and women does not bias either hemisphere - and in that it also shows that neither men or women are more lateralized than the other. There was only one study cited that claimed that men are more lateralized than women, which doesn't show any sort of "general consensus" when it comes to brain lateralization. The very fact that a new study has in fact challenged that leads to the conclusion that past ideas about lateralization have been wrong. To claim that it is still "generally accepted" is simply false. [[User:Countered|Countered]] ([[User talk:Countered|talk]]) 08:20, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

:I have reverted your edit. The fact that a study was discussed in the popular press is meaningless; this study has not been cited even once yet in the scientific literature. You have far more faith in the virtues of peer review than reality warrants -- the criteria listed at [[WP:MEDRS]] are there for good reasons. Further discussion should take place at [[Talk:Lateralization of brain function]]. [[User:Looie496|Looie496]] ([[User talk:Looie496|talk]]) 18:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

::You very clearly need to re-read the criteria for adding new data to a wikipedia page when it contradicts old data. Plos one is a peer reviewed medical journal - and it clearly states in [[WP:MEDRS]] that "Peer reviewed medical journals are a natural choice as a source for up-to-date medical information in Wikipedia articles." Secondly the only source you have for "general consensus" is a previous study in another journal. Do I really need to spell this out? In all reality this whole page needs to be rewritten because much of the data is now proven to be false by new methods; that is, whole brain lateralization scans as opposed to the previous localized scans. not only is the study I posted more thorough in it's more advanced methods, but it has been completely unopposed in the medical community. [[User:Countered|Countered]] ([[User talk:Countered|talk]]) 20:38, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

::I don't mean to come off as hostile either - I just don't really understand how wikipedia can maintain quality while claiming things which have seemingly been thoroughly disproved. Plos one is even quoted on [[WP:MEDRS]]. I guess I just don't understand what more is necessary to disprove past claims. [[User:Countered|Countered]] ([[User talk:Countered|talk]]) 21:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

== lateralization differences between men and women ==