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:''This is a sub-article to [[Muhammad before Medina]].
Following the failed attempt from the [[Mecca]]n polytheists to have those [[Muslim]]s who were part of the [[second migration to Abyssinia]] expelled and handed back to [[Persecution of Muslims by the Meccans|their persecutors]], the Meccans tried to negotiated with Muhammad's protector and uncle [[Abu Talib ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib]], who was still in Mecca with his nephew to have Muhammad [[ostracized]], a significant demand from the Meccans considering that [[social death]] would often result in death or slavery in the [[Pre-Islamic Arabia]]n culture ({{lang-ar|
Historical sources do not give the exact date of these two meetings with Abu Talib. They seem, however more likely to have taken place in {{BH|7|614|+}} with a brief lapse of time in between.<ref name=sunnipath2>[[The Sealed Nectar]] on [http://www.sunnipath.com/Resources/PrintMedia/Books/B0033P0017.aspx sunnipath.com]</ref>
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