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Thanking you sir, I need saving changes in my Wikipedia templates. [[User:Rahq09|Rahq09]] ([[User talk:Rahq09|talk]]) 04:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
:Please ask "how to" questions at the [[WP:TH|Teahouse]], rather than here. [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 12:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
==Hidden title==
Why was the [[Template:Hidden title]] added to this article on {{diff|Help:Getting started|806284400|803947599|21 October 2017}}? That template wasn't meant for ordinary Wikipedia pages (see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 July 21#Template:Hidden title]]. Not having a title displayed makes copy/paste of the article name impossible. Please remove that template. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 06:17, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
:They were added to the 3 automated "New user landing pages" like Wikipedia:Article_wizard ....if you need to link the page we have short cuts.--[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 14:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
::If I want to point a new editor to this page, presenting it as [[H:GS]] will not tell them what is meant. I shouldn't have written "impossible". Of course I know that there are several other ways to get the ordinary page name for cut/paste purposes, it's only impossible with my normal method: double click the page name and Ctrl+C. It just struck me as very odd when I looked at the page and there was no page name. Looking at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Hidden title]] showed that it's only used on Article Wizard and Wikipedia Adventure pages – and this one. I didn't see the connection. I still don't see the need to hide the title on this page, but … <shrug />. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 14:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
:I am not sure how to explain...but these are [[Wikipedia:New user landing page]]s that are automated ....as in new editors are directed here by bot or redirect due to an action. We have [[Wikipedia:Instructional material]]--[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 21:22, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
::I must support concerns raised by {{u|Michael Bednarek}} at the recent hiding of this page's title. I see no reason for it; it does indeed make linking to this page much harder. Showing "[[Help:Getting started]]" is never going to confuse any user - it's a convention they're going to see throughout their Wikipedia editing days. I'm currently putting an online and printed help sheet together for new editors at editathons. No longer having a clear, linkabe page title is a retrograde step in my view, and should be restored asap. I'm afraid the explanation for this (given above) failed to impart any understanding on my part. Regards from the UK, [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 12:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::I have restored the title. That they are aimed at newbies is no reason these pages should break with the convention used across the rest of Wikipedia, in fact it's a reason they should follow it. [[User:the wub|the wub]] [[User_talk:The wub|<span style="color: #008000">"?!"</span>]] 13:00, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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