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:{{ping|Zigzig20s}} Sent. --[[User:MrLinkinPark333|MrLinkinPark333]] ([[User talk:MrLinkinPark333|talk]]) 18:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

::Thank you.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 19:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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== ''Daily Mail'', 1906 ==

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In case anyone has access to the ''Daily Mail'' archive, I'm looking for an article from 10 January 1906, p. 3, possibly by Charles E. Hands. It's an article about the suffragettes; indeed, it was apparently this article that coined the term. Hoping someone can help; many thanks in advance, [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small>^{[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]}</small> 17:19, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

:I have a Newspapers.com subscription but the 'Daily Mail' is not part of their database. If you need other sources, let me know. Best Regards, [[User:Barbara (WVS)|Barbara]]&nbsp;<span style="color: darkred;">[[User talk:Barbara (WVS)|✐ ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Barbara (WVS)|✉ ]]</span> 03:36, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

::Hi {{u|Barbara (WVS)|Barbara}}, thank you for checking. [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small>^{[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]}</small> 19:50, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:::{{u|SlimVirgin}}, [[Special:EmailUser|email me]] for this. I think the article you're looking for is ''Mr. Balfour and the "Suffragettes"'' on page 5. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 01:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

::::{{u|SlimVirgin}}, sent. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 22:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

:::::{{u|SlimVirgin}}, just checking that you got it so we can mark this as {{tl|resolved}}. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 06:09, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

{{od}}{{u|Usernameunique}}, I'm sorry to be so slow to reply to this. Thank you for sending that article, but it doesn't look like the right one. It doesn't have the byline, and it uses the term ''suffragette'' as though it's been used before, not as though it's the article coining the term. The issue is that lots of secondary sources attribute the term ''suffragette'' to the ''Daily Mail'', and specifically to an article by Charles E. Hands (one source says this) from 10 January 1906. They say that the ''Mail'' made up the term to minimize what the women were doing (i.e. they were not real suffragists, but mini or fake versions, as in kitchen/kitchenette). But I've never seen anyone quote the ''Mail'' article, so I would like to try to find it. [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small>^{[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]}</small> 01:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

:{{u|SlimVirgin|SarahSV}}, I had no luck with the archives I checked. Gale has a [https://www.gale.com/c/daily-mail-historical-archive ''Daily Mail'' archive]; perhaps someone here has access to it. (Unfortunately, access to Gale doesn't necessarily include this particular product.) [[User:BlackcurrantTea|BlackcurrantTea]] ([[User talk:BlackcurrantTea|talk]]) 13:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

:[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]], I wonder if your suspicion is right. It strikes me as quite common that terms are coined without much ado, and I believe the quotation marks around the term are a hint that the author may have made up the word himself. More importantly, however, the OED mentions the article identified by Usernameunique as its first recorded use of the term ("1906 Daily Mail 10 Jan. Mr. Balfour and the ‘Suffragettes’... It was not surprising that Mr. Balfour should receive a deputation of the Suffragettes."). Best, —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 21:12, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

::{{u|SlimVirgin}}, the byline doesn't say "Charles E. Hands," but it does say "From Our Special Correspondent." I wonder if Hands was "the" special correspondent for the ''Daily Mail'' (or for particular subjects for the ''Daily Mail''), i.e., when they referred to a special correspondent (perhaps with reference to a particular subject), they were referring to him? Many of his bylines say "From Our Special Correspondent,/Charles E. Hands", or have the "From Our Special Correspondent" precede the text, and the "Charles E. Hands" follow it; the latter was true of an article he wrote on January 11th, "Mr. Balfour's Position." Hands seems to have been quite well known, as shown by his [https://www.nytimes.com/1937/11/03/archives/charles-e-hands-british-reporter-war-correspondent-in-africa-cuba.html NYT obit], which also mentions his coining of the term. The 1931 letter to the editor that the obit mentions is [https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1931/05/19/96199698.html?pageNumber=25 here], but does not state particulars of the first usage. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 22:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

== ''Daily Mirror'' ==

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I'm looking for a ''Daily Mirror'' article from either 25 or 26 October 1906, which discusses the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS) and the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU), also known as the suffragettes. I don't have a page number or headline, but I believe it contains the words "noisy methods", and it's about a meeting of the NUWSS on 24 October 1906, attended by 2,000 women, at which the suffragettes were reportedly applauded. It's for [[Mud March (suffragists)]]. Many thanks, [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small>^{[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]}</small> 21:02, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Samwalton9}} Habitués of this page are having difficulty filling this request. Is it something you could handle through [http://library.liv.ac.uk/record=b2126838~S8 University of Liverpool]? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Worldbruce|contribs]]) 23:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)</small>

== The Times (UK) - Kristine Ciesinski obituary ==

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For [[Kristine Ciesinski]]

Hi, If anyone has a copy of the above article, kindly assist. Thank you

Thanks, [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]^{([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])} 01:42, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

:{{re|CASSIOPEIA}} I got it – shoot me an email and I'll reply with it. Thanks, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[User talk:L235#top|t]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 16:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

::{{sent}}. '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[User talk:L235#top|t]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 23:30, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

:::{{U|L235}} Good day. Received with thanks![[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]^{([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])} 23:59, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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