Wikipedia:Utenti problematici/ZH8000: differenze tra le versioni

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:::::Chiedo scusa per l'uso della lingua inglese invece della lingua italiana. I have no intention at all to vandalise the Lucerna article. I try rather vice versa to revert the unjustified promotion of this wrestler on many different languages on wikipedia. For sure, he is a wrestler and probably quite successful. And probably he was also born in Lucerne. The whole point is very simple: He is totally unknown in Switzerland or in Lucerne in particular. You could list 10000 other inhabitants from Lucerne with much more prominent status than he is. I never heard of him (except through wikipedia) and I live in Lucerne, read a lot, also regarding sports. Just do a google search restricted to Switzerland and you get the point. It is not justified to list him, especially on such short list. There are many interesting personalities related to Lucerna, but they do not appear on the list. Please see also the discussion on ''de::Diskussion:Liste von Söhnen und Töchtern der Stadt Luzern'' where I invited the [[Utente:Majo statt Senf]], but he didn't take part so far. Instead he got involved in an edit-war. Thank you. -- [[Utente:ZH8000|ZH8000]] ([[Discussioni utente:ZH8000|msg]]) 15:57, 27 gen 2017 (CET)

::::::Dear ZH8000, as i already tried to explain (but i did it in italian so maybe you didn't get it, it's fine) the fact that this wrestler is unknown to you doesn't matter. The people are listed in that section because they are somehow connected to the city, it's not about fame at all. If you think there are many more people worth being included in that section then put the names there, but, please, do not remove the name without a real motivation. Fame or the fact that you don't know him are not a motivation.--[[Utente:Quandary|Quandary]] ([[Discussioni utente:Quandary|msg]]) 16:04, 27 gen 2017 (CET)

:::::::Thanks for changing into English. Of course, my personal estimation is totally irrelevant. I just wanted to pronounce that the listed wrestler is really unknown for Lucerne, or Switzerland in general. – Well, if you think – here on Italian WP – that the list of ''prominent'' people from Lucerne ("Persone legate a Lucerna") is open to "everybody", then it may be so. But on the German, English, French articles, we usually only list people with quite a strong contribution to the city they are listed in; at least they need some public prominent appearance in order to be legitimately listed. And to be born there (and have a WP entry) is usually not a sufficiant criteria, really not. But I see, you seem to handle this differently here. And finally, it seems that this wrestler is being actively <u>promoted</u> over several WP languages despite being totally unknown in Lucerne or Switzerland. At least on English WP this is frowned upon: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion SOAP]. -- [[Utente:ZH8000|ZH8000]] ([[Discussioni utente:ZH8000|msg]]) 16:25, 27 gen 2017 (CET)