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Line 12: *{{tl\|sfp top}} for customized result description (use <nowiki>{{sfp top\|result}}</nowiki>). Discussion footer: {{tl\|sfd bottom}} ==={{tl\|England-musician-stub}}=== {{sfp create}} {{tl\|England-bio-stub}} is over 5 pages, {{tl\|UK-musician-stub}} is getting there (almost 4 and a half), and of course musician stubs are still oversized. Plenty of these out there. [[User:Crystallina\|Crystallina]] 14:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC) I've been politely ignoring the England-bios, as that road lies madness: one could simply re-sort 90% of the UKs into this, and gain... well, what, in the process? (Yeah, I know, this coming from the person who moved 700 Calvados-geo-stubs to "fix" the 800ish Lower Normandy type...) Was this ever actually proposed, or did we just "fall heir" to it? I suppose we're stuck with it now though, so I'll support this, on the basis of the above necessity. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 16:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC) Not sure, but all of a sudden there are 5 pages of them. I'm not a big fan of it either, but it's rather established now. [[User:Crystallina\|Crystallina]] 20:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Boat Club Stubs=== {{sfp top\|create sports club stub}} There are quite a few articles on rowing clubs. About a dozen or so on Oxford and Cambridge college boat clubs alone, and all of them are stubs, although not many are named as such. They currently use the 'sports-related article stub' which is quite vague. {{unsigned\|The Spith}} Are there 60 overall? One way or another, I'd think a {{cl\|Sports club stubs}} would be a good idea. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 12:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC) *a sports clubs stub category sounds good to me. --[[User:Ohms law\|Ohms law]] 13:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Upmerged US school templates at or near threshold=== {{sfp create}} {{tl\|Arizona-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Arizona school stubs}} 64 {{tl\|Missouri-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Missouri school stubs}} 59 {{tl\|Colorado-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Colorado school stubs}} 56 {{tl\|Nebraska-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Nebraska school stubs}} 50 {{tl\|Alabama-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Alabama school stubs}} 48 {{tl\|Utah-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Utah school stubs}} 48 {{tl\|Iowa-school-stub}} / {{cl\|Iowa school stubs}} 45 I suggest we create full-fledged categories for the first three, and keep an eye on the remainder. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 05:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC) '''Support'''. I concur. '''''[[User:Nauticashades\|Nautica]]''<font color="black">[[User Talk:Nauticashades\|Shad]]</font><font color="black">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|e]]</font><font color="black">[[Special:Contributions/User:Nauticashades\|s]]</font>''' 16:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ==={{cl\|European sports venue stubs}} update=== {{sfp create}} These are oversized again; largest countries within seem to be Portugal (46) and Greece (43), with no appeciable undercatting. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 21:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Further split of Euro-athletics-bio-stubs=== {{sfp create}} Further to Aai's propsal below I believe that Both Sweden and Spain have also passed the 60 mark and so I would like to propose {{cl\|Sweden athletics biography stubs}} and {{cl\|Spain athletics biography stubs}} templates already exist for both of these. Now that you mention it, on double-stubbing (or double-upmerged-stubbing, to be more accurate), Poland is at 55, and Finland 48, they may worth a punt, too, or getting very close. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 02:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC) *Having been through these again Italy-75, Sweden-70, Spain-63, Poland-61 should be created the next largest are Ukraine-52, Finland-49, Hungary-47 and Romania-43 all have there own templates already and Bulgaria-39, Belarus-37 and Netherlands-34.PS Apologies for not signing my original proposal. [[User:Waacstats\|Waacstats]] 16:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ==={{cl\|1968 Summer Olympics stubs}}=== {{sfp create}} Olympics stubs are oversized again: nothing guaranteed to be over threshold, but for these I can certainly find at least 51. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 04:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Bishop subcats=== {{sfp create}} {{cl\|United States bishop stubs}} 97 {{cl\|United Kingdom bishop stubs}} 68 or: {{cl\|Anglican bishop stubs}} 77 Bishops are at four pages, above based just on double-stubbing. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 22:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC) '''Support''' all three.--[[User:Carabinieri\|Carabinieri]] 19:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Long Island Rail Road station stubs=== {{sfp top\|create as modified by Alai}} Many of the articles about Long Island Rail Road stations in [[:Category:Long Island Rail Road stations]] (of which there are 44) are stubs, and I think they should be classified as Long Island Rail Road station stubs to be more specific and to aid [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains\|WikiProject Trains]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stations\|WikiProject Stations]]. I've taken the liberty of creating the category and its associated stub template ([[:Category:Long Island Rail Road station stubs]] and [[:Template:LIRR-station-stub]] respectively) but I didn't associate them with any higher up stub classifications. It should probably be a subcategory of [[:Category:United States train station stubs]]. -- [[User:WindowsWizard12\|Robert]] 06:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC) :'''Oppose'''. I'm not at all convinced that this is a good move - with other countries we've started splitting station stubs by ___location, not by specific line (thus a NewYork-railstation-stub would be the obvious way to split US railstation-stubs). And if there are only 44 station articles in total, it seems extremely unlikely from the viewpoint of logic that 60 of them will be stubs. And I'm ''certainly'' not convinced that "make the template first then propose it later" is a good way to go. All in all, this could have been handled better if you'd come here first. [[User:Grutness\|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness\|wha?]]</font></small>'' 06:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC) ::'''Comment''' But on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals#Proposing new stubs - procedure]] page it says "Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if associated with a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case," and these are part of a WikiProject, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stations\|WikiProject Stations]]. Also, sorry for creating the template first; I had no idea of the existance of this page until I'd already created it and was looking into how to add it to a stub category. --[[User:WindowsWizard12\|Robert]] 23:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC) :::The stub type associated with the wikiproject would be {{cl\|United States train station stubs}}; the "associated with a wikiproject" clause isn't intended to be read as meaning ''any'' stub type which is in some sense associated with a wikiproject -- which would be all of them. Perhaps the wording on this could stand to be more clear: [[WP:STUB]], for example, says "This threshold is modified for the stub category for use by a WikiProject. (If a Wikiproject is associated with more than one stub type, normal size considerations apply.)" [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 00:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC) :On the whole I feel much as does Grutness. I'd have no objections to a {{tl\|LIRR-station-stub}} upmerged to a {{cl\|New York rail station stubs}}, but this is a little too "bottom up", and a little too small, for my liking. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 06:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC) ::I've just checked, the said {{tl\|NewYork-railstation-stub}} type would take 145 stubs, so I'm going to officially propose that. Also, above I should have said that the WPJ's "designated stub type" should be {{tl\|railstation-stub}} / {{cl\|train station stubs}}... except that doesn't exist either, so I'm proposing that too. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 16:17, 8 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ===Belgium stub splitting=== {{sfp top\|create templates, upmerge cat}} [[:Category:Belgium stubs]] Could be further split up and reorganised: the current scheme is {{tl\|Belgium-stub}} {{tl\|Belgium-geo-stub}} {{tl\|Belgium-bio-stub}} *{{tl\|Belgium-footybio-stub}} {{tl\|Belgium-politician-stub}} {{tl\|Belgium-sport-stub}} (currently on ''discovery'') {{tl\|Belgium-footyclub-stub}} Belgian culture *Belgian music {{tl\|Belgium-band-stub}} {{tl\|FrancoBelgian-comics-stub}} **{{tl\|Tintin-stub}} I would love some input from the experts here. I think a music stub will already sort out most of the articles, although I'm not sure if this needs to be split up further in artists, songs, etc. Other stub categories I think of relate to media, politics (broader then just politicians), companies, history... So I suggest: {{tl\|Belgium-music-stub}} and [[:Category:Belgian music stubs]] * {{tl\|Belgium-media-stub}} and [[:Category:Belgian media stubs]] * {{tl\|Belgium-politics-stub}} and [[:Category:Belgian politics stubs]] * {{tl\|Belgium-company-stub}} and [[:Category:Belgian company stubs]] * {{tl\|Belgium-history-stub}} and [[:Category:Belgian history stubs]] Comments, please!--[[User:Stevenfruitsmaak\|Steven Fruitsmaak]] <small>([[User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak\|Reply]])</small> 17:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC) *Aren't these possibly a little over-engineered, given that theres only just over 200 stubs in the parent category? But their scopes certainly make sense in theory; perhaps just create them as upmerged templates, feeding into said parent, until the need and viability is rather more clear-cut? (Ideally 60+ in each case.) [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 21:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC) ::Sounds like an excellent idea to me.--[[User:Stevenfruitsmaak\|Steven Fruitsmaak]] <small>([[User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak\|Reply]])</small> 13:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ==={{tl\|RC-stub}} revisited...=== {{sfp create}} If I may quote myself from the RC-WPJ page, 'Also, what about a {{cl\|Roman Catholic Church by country stubs}} type for the numberous "Church in Blahland" stub articles?' The name is a tad awkward, but numerically they're more than viable. [[User:Alai\|Alai]] 09:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC) {{sfd bottom}} ==={{tl\|liberty-ship-stub}}===

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