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==Encourage the newcomers==

[[:Template:Uw-bite]] links to [[WP:BITE]]. Should it also link to [[Wikipedia:Encourage the newcomers]] for some positive advice? I am currently the main author on this essay, so I have a COI; please only make this change if you think it will improve the template. [[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]])

:These warning templates should ideally link to established policies, or at least guidelines, and not essays. If the guideline needs improvement, do feel free to suggest it on the guideline's talk page. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 16:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion for ALLCAPS template ==

I have requested this a month and a half ago on [[WP:RT]] and {{noping|Redrose64}} redirected me here. That was before my WikiBreak. Thanks Bishonen. I am reposting my original message here as I think this template may still be necessary. Thank you.

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I have encountered a few users that write messages in ALL CAPS when they want to put emphasis while I am patrolling. For that, I have used personal messages, but I think there may be a need for templates {{tl|uw-allcaps1}} and {{tl|uw-allcaps2}} that may be necessary. The templates I am proposing may have the wording something like this:

*Level 1: "Hello {{tl|BASEPAGENAME}} and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed you left a message in ALL CAPS, which is considered [[WP:SHOUTING|shouting]]. This may not be your intent, but check your caps lock key before you continue editing. If you need to emphasize text, you can use <code><nowiki>'''Bold text'''</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>''Italics text''</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki><u>Underlined text</u></nowiki></code>. Thank you."

*Level 2: "Please refrain from leaving messages in ALL CAPS as it is considered [[WP:SHOUTING|shouting]] and [[WP:UNCIVIL|uncivil]]. If you need to emphasize text, you can use <code><nowiki>'''Bold text'''</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>''Italics text''</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki><u>Underlined text</u></nowiki></code>. Thank you."

*Level 3 and higher: use {{tl|uw-npa3}} and {{tl|uw-npa4}}.

Thank you.

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[[User:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:green;">Awesome</span>]] [[User_talk:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:blue;" title="Check my status before pinging or posting to my talk page!">Aasim</span>]] 19:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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[[User:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:green;">Awesome</span>]] [[User_talk:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:blue;" title="Check my status before pinging or posting to my talk page!">Aasim</span>]] 20:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

:I think that may be a bit over-specific, and if needed, could be addressed by a single warning template, not a multi-level one. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 16:14, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|ToBeFree}} Okay. So maybe we can just have the level 1 warning message. It may be needed, though, as to prevent posts in ALL CAPS. [[User:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:green;">Awesome</span>]] [[User_talk:Awesome Aasim|<span style="color:blue;" title="Check my status before pinging or posting to my talk page!">Aasim</span>]] 01:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

:::{{u|Awesome Aasim}}, I personally have not yet encountered a case where pure "all caps" had been the main problem to explain to a user. If I had, I would probably have written a short custom message for the unique case.

:::I'd guess that users who write in "all caps" are more likely causing more significant disruption in other ways too. If not, it could even be possible to completely ignore the way their messages are written, and respond to their (likely incorrect) arguments instead. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 02:34, 9 January 2020 (UTC)