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Also, I have a personal impression. Everyone is able to produce some working program in Java (simply because of the library offered methods), while to write high quality software, both high level programming in C/C++, algorithm and data structure knowledge is needed. I have no idea how the JVM is implemented, however, I bet it began with a C/C++ compilation. And the only nice feature Java has is some metaprogramming (I prefer Lisp much more for this purpose and it also can be embaded with C/C++). Also C/C++ stands for decades (and probably will continue to stand), however, my personal impression is that Java is fading away and PHP takes it's place (my job is as a PHP programmer and I hate it, however, like before with Java, today everyone can code some program in PHP, so finding enough great C/C++ programmers is hard and only the top companies can afford it (I live in a low economy country)).
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This article does not compare Java and C++ programming languages.
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==What is the point of this article?==
What is the point of this article except to allow a group of people to explain why they dislike C++? This does not belong in an encyclopedia. It is original research, unsourced and POV. I am proposing this article be deleted since it seems more like a bulletin board for people who dislikes C++. Also, are we going to have articles comparing every language out there? [[User:MartinDK|MartinDK]] 12:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Although it may be a popular topic in the blog-o-sphere, comparing Java to C++ is an arbitrary selection of two different programming languages with very different approaches and goals. It doesn't seem any different than trying to compare an apple and an orange. Furthermore, as the debate further below shows, it's probably impossible to provide an article that is more educational than a list of features and yet still maintains a neutral point-of-view. People can't compare languages without devolving into a debate about "which one is better", when that depends so much on what you are trying to achieve that no article can answer it for anybody, and would be nothing but opinions if it tried. I just don't think this is a good fit for Wikipedia's format and is better left to people writing blogs or hot takes on twitter. I second the notion of deleting this article. [[User:Mr. Shoeless|Mr. Shoeless]] ([[User talk:Mr. Shoeless|talk]]) 02:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)▼
▲<br/><br/>I agree. Although it may be a popular topic in the blog-o-sphere, comparing Java to C++ is an arbitrary selection of two different programming languages with very different approaches and goals. It doesn't seem any different than trying to compare an apple and an orange. Furthermore, as the debate further below shows, it's probably impossible to provide an article that is more educational than a list of features and yet still maintains a neutral point-of-view. People can't compare languages without devolving into a debate about "which one is better", when that depends so much on what you are trying to achieve that no article can answer it for anybody, and would be nothing but opinions if it tried. I just don't think this is a good fit for Wikipedia's format and is better left to people writing blogs or hot takes on twitter. I second the notion of deleting this article. [[User:Mr. Shoeless|Mr. Shoeless]] ([[User talk:Mr. Shoeless|talk]]) 02:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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