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*'''Delete'''. There may be an article to write on the history of [[Java (programming language)|Java]]; it is a vastly popular and rather old programming language which has seen a lot of change. However, this is not that article. The current article violates [[WP:DIRECTORY|Wikipedia is not a directory]]; listing [[JDK Enhancement Proposal|JEPs]] and syntax changes is the role of a [[changelog]], not an encyclopedia. [[User:BenKuykendall|BenKuykendall]] ([[User talk:BenKuykendall|talk]]) 21:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. I agree that having '''all''' JEPS for the article is not useful, but the kind of informations provided in the articles are not available easily. The fact that there is an overview of main changes for major versions is useful IMO. At the beginning, the article listed major changes, but I think that as times passed, editors began to include every small changes in the article, which was not the intent. So my advice would be to remove all the minor updates dates (and those changes which only bring , and only keep the key focus changes. However referring the JEP number is important I think because it is often the only way to source the change. As for the fact that a lot of informations are sourced by Oracle pages, I think that it's just because editors tried to source every release and lazily linked to the more easily available information. BTW, a lot if not all of version history articles here have exactly the same pattern. For example [[.NET Framework version history]] , [[Qt version history]], the [[Ruby (programming language)|Ruby]] history, the version table for [[History_of_Python|Python]], the [[Google Chrome version history]], the [[Firefox version history]], etc... If we delete this article, we should delete them too (they have exactly the same "problems") [[User:Hervegirod|Hervegirod]] ([[User talk:Hervegirod|talk]]) 22:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', affirming what [[User:Hervegirod|Hervegirod]] mentioned. We could debate whether this article should be merged into [[Java_(programming_language)]] or not, but the same issues others mentioned would still stand, namely not every JEP note needs to be included, and it's heavily sourced in a way that violates [[WP:NOTADVERTISING]]. But I think a positive outcome of this discussion should be a clarified policy for all programming language versions going forward, because inevitably the sourcing will be largely singular for each and every small feature update/syntax change. [[User:Shushugah|Shushugah]] ([[User talk:Shushugah|talk]]) 12:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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