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== {{Did}} Eutrophication mechanism ==
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== Languages of Europe ==
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Image:Europa-Lingvoj--RS2006030842.jpg|Original
Image:BlankMap-Europe.png|Blank map of Europe (png)
Image:BlankMap-Europe.svg|Blank map of Europe (svg)
Image:Europe blank political border map.svg|Another blank SVG
Image:European_languages.svg|Low resolution first attempt by [[User:Time3000|Time3000]]
Image:Map of Europe Demis.svg|New SVG (work in progress)
Image:Map of Europe Demis fix.svg|New SVG (as of 27th Dec. 2006, 1230 UTC) with added namespace info
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'''Articles:
* [[Europe]]
* [[Languages of Europe]]
* [[Demographics of Europe]]
* [[Alphabetic list of living languages in Europe]]
* [[List of language families]]'''
'''Request:''' --[[User:Missmarple|Missmarple]] 15:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
:Request from the [[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Maps]]. -- - [[User:lyhana8|lyhana8]] [[User talk:lyhana8|<small>(<font style="color:green;">Talk</font>)</small>]] 00:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::What exactly is the request here? —[[User:Larry V|Larry V]] <small>([[User talk:Larry V|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Larry V|contribs]])</small> 21:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I really don't know, some users just put that here and believe that we know everything. Are we strong like that ? ;] [[User:Yug|Yug]] [[User talk:Yug|<small><font style="color:green;">(talk)</font></small>]] 22:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Probably vectorisation and a better visual aspect. Keep in mind that SVGs are [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Graphic_Lab&oldid=93865667#multilangual_SVG_.28method.29 multilingual]. Click that link for instructions on how to make them that way :) --<font color="black">[[User:Zantastik|Zantastik]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[User talk:Zantastik|talk]]</font> 01:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I apologize for not writing my request, but I'm not very good with the terminology... I think this should be converted to SVG and something should also be done with all the text surrounding the image because it certainly doesn't belong there. Regards, --[[User:Missmarple|Missmarple]] 08:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I was going to work on this, but I couldn't find an already existing SVG image of a map of Europe with political boundaries. So I started working on that, but before I get too far, I wanted to see if anyone knew of such a map that already existed? --[[User:Andrew c|Andrew c]] 17:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Here is a blank map of Europe. I'm to tired to work on this today, but I might have a look at it tomorrow.
::::: / [[User:Mats Halldin|Mats Halldin]]<small> ([[User talk:Mats Halldin|talk]])</small> 18:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the map, I also uploaded what I have so far. I feel the detail on my version is superior, but it may be much harder to edit (well, using illustrator's live paint feature, its easy to fill in color, but I'm not sure how well it will work in Inkscape). I'll keep plugging away on this then.--[[User:Andrew c|Andrew c]] 15:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I've created a map based on the first svg template, but the detail is very low, and there are no 'combined language' areas as on the original. I've tried to base the colours roughly on the jpeg, but they're not entirely accurate. It also needs some labels, but I don't have time to do that now. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 16:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I didn't notice until now but [[:Image:BlankMap-Europe.svg]] is pretty messed up, I'd try using the other blank svg as a base instead. Other than the problems in the base map and needing labels added it looks good. [[User:Kmusser|Kmusser]] 17:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, there seem to be a lot of very mediocre SVG maps out there. [[Wikipedia:Blank maps]] recommends [[:Image:BlankMap-World6.svg]] which contains more detail... you'll have to remove all the non-europe stuff, but it still has more detail. --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 18:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Low res map of Europe can not be used. Languages don't stop at borders. Belgium, e.g. is completely wrong: it is now shown as french, while 65% of it's inhabitants speak dutch (I for one). This is going to take a lot more work than just colouring a high res European countries' map... [[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] 06:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I've now spent a few days producing an acceptable map of Europe for the purpose of creating this lingvistic map. I'm tracing a big Demis map of Europe and I think I will need a few more days before I'm done with it. I'm presenting my work this far above just to let you know that someone is actually working on this request. I will be uploading the finished version when I'm done with it. So stay tuned.
<br /> / [[User:Mats Halldin|Mats Halldin]]<small> ([[User talk:Mats Halldin|talk]])</small> 16:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
'''Note:''' This map shows up as a blank image on Commons. The same problem disapeared after a few hours when I created [[:Image:Map Tamana en.svg]] above. To view the SVG meanwhile you could preview it as a thumbnail. As such SVGs don't seem to work in 250px, of some obscure reason.
<br /> / [[User:Mats Halldin|Mats Halldin]]<small> ([[User talk:Mats Halldin|talk]])</small> 17:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:I cannot view this in Firefox 2.0.0.1 as an image because of ''This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.'' I can view the code though. I haven't tried to open it with inkscape.--[[User:Andrew c|Andrew c]] 20:42, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::It is fine! It opens in Inkscape and looks very promising, with a high enough resolution. Good job [[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] 21:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::It won't display in firefox because it doesn't have an xmlns attribute in the svg declaration... I'll upload a 'fixed' version to check if this is the problam with the wiki rendering as well. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 12:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:::It seems that adding the xmlns attr. does make it work in firefox, and with the wiki preview. Looking at [http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#NewDocument], it seems that this is actually required by the SVG specification, so it's the software being used to create the svg that's at fault - though it's not particularly hard to add in the missing info by hand. Just for camparison, here are the first few lines of the two files:
'''Original version'''
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 9.0, SVG Export Plug-In -->
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20000303 Stylable//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303/DTD/svg-20000303-stylable.dtd" [
<!ENTITY st0 "fill:#000000;stroke:none;">
<!ENTITY st1 "fill:none;stroke:#000000;">
<!ENTITY st2 "fill-rule:nonzero;clip-rule:nonzero;fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-miterlimit:4;">
]>
<svg width="5246.135pt" height="3831.265pt" viewBox="0 0 5246.135 3831.265" xml:space="preserve">
''' 'Fixed' version'''
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 9.0, SVG Export Plug-In -->
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20000303 Stylable//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303/DTD/svg-20000303-stylable.dtd" [
<!ENTITY st0 "fill:#000000;stroke:none;">
<!ENTITY st1 "fill:none;stroke:#000000;">
<!ENTITY st2 "fill-rule:nonzero;clip-rule:nonzero;fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-miterlimit:4;">
]>
<svg width="5246.135pt" height="3831.265pt" viewBox="0 0 5246.135 3831.265" xml:space="preserve" '''xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"'''>
:::[[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 12:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Map of Europe Demis.svg|thumb|250px|Map of Europe, 250 pixels.]]
:::: Ok, I've updated the SVG file with some more coasts and the xmlns tag. The file renders fine on Commons now and seem to work as a 250px thumb as well, so thanks for the tip. I'll be working with Scandinavia now. So if you don't hear from me during a few days, don't think I'm dead, I'm probably just having nightmares about Norway.
:::: / [[User:Mats Halldin|Mats Halldin]]<small> ([[User talk:Mats Halldin|talk]])</small> 18:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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== {{did}} Receding glacier ==
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