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== 'Dnipro' usage examples ==
I'd like to start the list of 'Dnipro' name usage examples and invite other users to add to the list. Tried to gather sources not from Ukraine, as someone wished (though plenty of web-cites in .ua domen [eg. IT companies with international connections] have influence on other www segments). I know, you can add more reliable sources. -- [[User:Ата|<span style="color:
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* https://lookatthesescenes.com/2013/02/18/uk-raine-ing-flares-in-dnipro/
* http://www.daxx.com/view/daxx-software-development-teams-dnipropetrovsk
-- [[User:Ата|<span style="color:
:I looked at one of those websites - it got its content by copying from other websites, and then putting the words "read the full article on...".--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 20:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
::This is by no means a compendium of current English usage. As Toddy points out, in many (most) cases you have listed, this is just cut and paste usage from a single source. You have to do more than just do a Google search and listing links. You have to actually read and evaluate each source. By requiring unique sources, your list of Eurovision articles is reduced to one as well as your list of economic articles. Indeed, in both of these cases even, the underlying source for the usage isn't actually an English source, but a Ukrainian one that the English source simply copies. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|Taivo]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 07:47, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:::May I suggest that if people are just copying text without changing the city name then they are ok with it? --[[User:Ата|<span style="color:
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*'''Support''' per nom. [[User:Unreal7|Unreal7]] ([[User talk:Unreal7|talk]]) 15:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. There is no evidence that "Dnipro" has supplanted "Dnipropetrovsk" (or even "Dnepropetrovsk") as the common name in English for this city. Yes, the Ukrainian name is now Дніпро, but that doesn't matter in the English Wikipedia. Only the most common usage '''''in English''''' counts in the English Wikipedia. We are not bound by acts of the Rada here. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|Taivo]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 15:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
*:Could you please tell how many citations of RS (not the ones I listed above) would be enough? --[[User:Ата|<span style="color:
*How can you apply the rule of Common name to the recently renamed cities? This is senseless. So renaming is a fact now and I don't see any clear reason why to leave the old name.--[[User:Orange-kun|Orange-kun]] ([[User talk:Orange-kun|talk]]) 11:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
::Because this is not about what the cities are called within Ukraine, in Ukrainian. It's about what is most commonly used in the English language. You have to demonstrate that a majority of the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] in English are now using "Dnipro" instead of "Dnipropetrovsk". A handful of mirrors of a single news report does not demonstrate "common English usage". You are itching to change things immediately. Wikipedia doesn't work that way. Read the history of discussion at [[Kiev]] and [[Odessa]] for an example of how common English usage works. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|Taivo]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 15:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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== What is needed for the move to happen? ==
I hope everyone realizes that in the end the article will be moved <small>(unless the city is renamed back but that is not the thing I am about to talk)</small>.<br />Could anyone please tell the conditions? '''How many''' citations of reliable sources will be enough? So that one day I could come back to this talk page, put a list of references and request the move that will be proceeded smoothly. Please take me seriously. --[[User:Ата|<span style="color:
:[[File:Smiley.svg|15px]] Read [[Talk:Dnipropetrovsk#Requested move 17 July 2016]]. It says "let usage evolve and revisit the issue after a year". So why not propose the move for the third time on 3rd August 2017. And yes, I firmly expect that one day the article will be moved... to Dnepropetrovsk [[File:Smiley.svg|15px]] --<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 19:50, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
::And it also has a question mark after this sentence. Year is a very long period of time. --[[User:Ата|<span style="color:
:I think third request for move can be opened without waiting for a year. As for now, there are a lot of evidence for a new name usage. Everything, related to Eurovision uses it - [http://esctoday.com/136894/eurovision-2017-ebu-visits-inspects-dnipro], [http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=kyiv_dnipro_and_odessa_shortlisted_to_host_eurovision_2017]. Also, the following references show widespread usage of a new name in English: [http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/news/europe/single-view/view/dnipro-metro-extension-contract-signed.html], [http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/359132.html], [http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/358505.html], [http://uatoday.tv/society/vaccination-crisis-in-ukraine-thousands-kids-left-exposed-to-serious-diseases-709327.html], [http://uatoday.tv/society/water-patrol-police-launched-in-city-of-dnipro-674786.html], [http://nashemisto.dp.ua/2016/07/08/v-dnepre-proshel-vtoroj-etap-the-great-dnipro-cup-2016/], [http://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine-politics/verkhovna-rada-renames-dnipropetrovsk-as-dnipro-414096.html]. Actually, my personal opinion that the Rada's decision is quite enough to change the name of an article. [[User:Arthistorian1977|Arthistorian1977]] ([[User talk:Arthistorian1977|talk]]) 09:57, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
::The Rada's decision is UTTERLY IRRELEVANT to the English language Wikipedia. You clearly have no understanding of [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. This isn't the Ukrainian Wikipedia. Three requests in three months is a waste of Wikipedia time. Why don't you actually do something productive? Waiting a year is nothing in Wikipedia. Instead of [[WP:CRYSTALBALL|predicting]] that a change may happen, just act like an adult and wait for it to happen. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|Taivo]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 21:33, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
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