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*If Schumin were still editing, I'd be voting to accept this case now. As it is, it appears as though his last edit was several days before the RFC was filed, so it's entirely possible that he is unaware of the RFC, and it's almost certain he is unaware of this case request. If he's not checking email, that notification may also fall on deaf ears. Regardless, the RFC does appear to document a number of long-lasting concerns that do merit further investigation. I'll withhold voting on acceptance until the end of the week to give Schumin time to respond, but I agree with Risker - if his inactivity does continue, my intention will be to vote to accept the case and support a temporary injunction desysopping Schumin and suspending the case until he should return to the project. [[User:Hersfold|'''''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold</em>''''']] <small>[[User:Hersfold non-admin|non-admin]]</small>^{([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]])} 19:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

**'''Accept''', and I likely will propose a temporary injunction of some sort either removing his admin rights entirely, or barring him from making use of them, until he participates in the case. If he does indeed retire, then regrettable that we've lost an editor but the issue at hand is resolved. If he does return, then the issue of his admin rights can be resolved then. [[User:Hersfold|'''''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold</em>''''']] ^{([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]])} 02:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

*I have no doubt that SW will become aware of this Arb request sooner or later, but he also hasn't been editing since the RfC. While we have proceeded with cases when it was perceived the absence was deliberate to avoid scrutiny or they had stalled proceedings as long as possible, I don't think we've reached that stage here. There's no ongoing disruption by virtue of Web not actually editing, so I'm not sure we should be accepting. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]^{<small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small>} 21:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

**Move to '''accept''' and hold until Schumin returns, per Elen. I think that NFCC is another matter that can't be addressed here. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]^{<small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small>} 01:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

* SchuminWeb is now aware, so we can reasonably wait a short while for some kind of response. Kww makes an interesting point though. If he is right, this is the third admin I have seen implode over NFCC issues, particularly [[WP:NFCC#8]]. This criterion requires a massive judgement call, cannot be dealt with as a factual matter, and has at its heart a philosophical view about what Wikipedia is. The relevant [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy Foundation policy] does not have anything in it that resembles clause 8. Perhaps it's time to hold another discussion about NFCC. [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 22:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

**Given SchuminWeb's latest response to Hahc21, I would '''accept '''the case, based on the RfC, and suspend it. That gives SchuminWeb the opportunity to take a break from editing and adminning and, as NYB says, decide how he feels about things. If he decides to return having had a break, we can look at the matter more thoroughly at that point. If there is a desire in the community to take more of a look at NFCC generally, that can go ahead unconnected to this case. [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 00:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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:# First choice. Minor copyedit (inserted "either of"). [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 19:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

:# I think this covers things quite well. The instruction not to use the tools on penalty of forced removal is in effect the same as a desysopping. The situation that concerns Courcelles appears to also arise in Motion 4, that we have an injunction that will need to be enforced. <s>Equal first choice with Motion 4, though leaning toward</s> first choice, as the option for SchuminWeb to resign is useful. '''[[User:SilkTork|<span style="color:purple; font-family: Segoe Script">SilkTork</span>]]''' '''[[User talk:SilkTork|<font color="#347C2C">^{✔Tea time}</font>]]''' 07:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

:# Equal preference to motion above. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]^{<small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small>} 21:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

:# First choice. [[User:Hersfold|'''''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold</em>''''']] ^{([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]])} 22:29, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

:# [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Kirill Lokshin|[talk]]]} 00:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)