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:ISBNs added above. "Voelgyes" seems to be "Volgyes" in most cites. [[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] <small>[[User talk:LeadSongDog#top|<span style="color:red; font-family:Papyrus;">come howl!</span>]]</small> 18:06, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::None of these are in my library but they appear to be relatively available. If you are a resident of the US, I can help you with requesting them from your own library via interlibrary loan. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 18:16, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I'm sorry, I don't live in the US. Internet is the only way I could get those article. --[[User:Andresisrael|Andresisrael]] ([[User talk:Andresisrael|talk]]) 00:54, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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==== ''The New Yorker'' ====
 
Does anyone have electronic access to ''[[The New Yorker]]'' back to 1971? Even if it is only citation access and not full text, that would be a help, so then I could interlibrary loan the entire article. I accidentally found a ''New Yorker'' article from 1971 on Google Books on the topic of [[Tiki Gardens]], but the snippet doesn't reveal any information I can use to get the article via ILL. Thank you. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 19:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
:Searching the archive finds [http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1971/01/02/1971_01_02_052_TNY_CARDS_000299445?currentPage=all this article]. --[[User:Thgoiter|тнояsтеn]] [[User talk:Thgoiter|&hArr;]] 19:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
:: Very strange. Tiki Gardens is in [[Pinellas County]], as the title of this article says, but the story seems to be entirely about [[Walt Disney World]], three counties away. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 20:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, very strange indeed. The article is found by searching for ''Tiki'', but this word does not appear in the text. Someone should take a look at the printed edition of January 2, 1971. --[[User:Thgoiter|тнояsтеn]] [[User talk:Thgoiter|&hArr;]] 06:50, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:::: I will also submit an ILL request for this article and see if this title/author/date combination brings me the real thing. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 17:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::No dice. They just sent me the online archive version. Can someone take a look at the print copy if available? Even if just to see if it is a different article. Thanks! [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 14:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 
==== "The House at Loon Lake" ====
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Brief citation of the requested materials. --[[Special:Contributions/72.237.206.250|72.237.206.250]] ([[User talk:72.237.206.250|talk]]) 17:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:That doesn't seem to have much bearing on our mission to build an encyclopedia... [[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] <small>[[User talk:LeadSongDog#top|<span style="color:red; font-family:Papyrus;">come howl!</span>]]</small> 20:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:The transcript of that ''This American Life'' episode can be found [http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/199/transcript here]. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 02:53, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 
====De Gaulle and the chetniks====
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To determine the copyright status of [[:File:Portrait of Micheál Ó Coileáin.jpg|this photograph]] in its source country (Ireland), we need to know when the photographer died. We know that it is W. D. Hogan who was most prolific in the period 1920–1924 and who was a professional photographer. He worked until 1935 at 56 Henry St, Dublin. I was unable to find any traces of him after this year. The National Library of Ireland has a collection of photos of him but provides no life span (see [http://catalogue.nli.ie/Author/Home?author=Hogan%2C%20W.%20D%20photographer. here]). There was recently an exhibition of some of his photographs in Dublin (see [http://www.nli.ie/en/udlist/programme-and-events-previous-exhibitions.aspx?article=e55a1c22-8560-472a-bb4a-2f92bdf3cb3f here] and [http://comeheretome.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/w-d-hogans-run-comes-to-an-end/ here]) but his lifespan is nowhere mentioned. It would be very helpful if biographical databases, newspaper archives etc. could be recherched for his death date. As W. D. Hogan has taken a great number of unique historical photographs of the [[Irish War of Independence]] this would be helpful not just for this photograph that is currently under [[:commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Portrait of Micheál Ó Coileáin.jpg|discussion]] but the entire collection. --[[User:AFBorchert|AFBorchert]] ([[User talk:AFBorchert|talk]]) 06:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:Your best bet may be to [http://catalogue.nli.ie/Ask_a_Librarian/Home contact] the National Library of Ireland. There may be an archivist there who has worked with the collection and knows details of Hogan's life. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 17:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::A bit of poking around turns up [http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000219099 this photo] linked to the same Hogan; it's dated "circa 1947". It's the last one in the NLI's collection, suggesting:
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[[User:Ruigeroeland|Ruigeroeland]] ([[User talk:Ruigeroeland|talk]]) 11:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 
* [https://www.dropbox.com/s/z9vf21oid7w5a9r/lepidoptera.pdf Article 2]. Don't have access to one. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 16:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 
*[http://essigdb.berkeley.edu/checklists/fpLepidoptera.doc French Polynesia Lepidoptera Checklist from Berkeley] might be of some help. [[User:ChrisGualtieri|ChrisGualtieri]] ([[User talk:ChrisGualtieri|talk]]) 04:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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--[[User:Ratzer|Ratzer]] ([[User talk:Ratzer|talk]]) 07:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:I have access to an ebook version. I can send you pdf's of individual pages if you wish to view particular articles, but it won't allow me save the entire book. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 15:20, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
::If you were to send all individual pages, I presume I could assemble everything into one PDF file, but I presume that's not a possibility if you have to handle all 2000-odd pages individually. I'm not looking for a specific page at the moment, I only had the wish of having the whole thing at my disposal. If we don't see a practical way of achieving this, don't worry, and thanks anyway.--[[User:Ratzer|Ratzer]] ([[User talk:Ratzer|talk]]) 19:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 
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: You have previously requested these 2 articles at [[#Origin of the term Sociopath]]. Since no one has responded then it means nobody has access to these articles. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b><span style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</span></b>]][[User talk:OhanaUnited|<b><span style="color:green;"><sup>Talk page</sup></span></b>]] 07:34, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for responding. It seems to me quite important to get these, as the key source of the way the term was originally defined in America, anyone any other ideas how? [[User:Sighola2|Sighola2]] ([[User talk:Sighola2|talk]]) 18:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
:::[[Interlibrary loan]]. If you are in the United States, I can help you through the process. If not, I'm sure there are librarians from elsewhere around, I believe a UK librarian posts here sometimes. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 02:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Ah well I'm not really in a position to do real-life stuff like that at the moment, partly due to the limitations of contemporary psychiatry hmm so hmm anyway I have now found a way online. Interestingly in the short 1929 article, he doesn't in fact use the term sociopath but does propose "socio-pathology" - meaning pathological group behaviour, most strikingly demonstrated in national motivations for war he says. In the 1930 article he talks about sociopathy as an individual or group issue which anyone can sometimes show, but does also define 'essential sociopaths' or for short sociopaths as those with a core mental disorder involving chronic anti-social motivation & behavior. He mentions Karl Birnbaum but doesn't cite him or credit him with coining the term so still not sure about that, maybe I'll try the German wiki. Cheers [[User:Sighola2|Sighola2]] ([[User talk:Sighola2|talk]]) 10:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 
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::: Did you see this a reference from 1901.[http://books.google.com/books?ei=r8M7UvLMJ-fl4AOWu4C4BA&id=19EiAAAAMAAJ&dq=Brown+Windsor+soup&q=+soup#search_anchor] Another as "Windsor Soup" with recipe from 1904.[http://books.google.com/books?id=2ctBAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA24&dq=Brown+Windsor+soup&hl=en&sa=X&ei=r8M7UvLMJ-fl4AOWu4C4BA&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Brown%20Windsor%20soup&f=false] Another recipe that comes out "clear" from 1910.[http://books.google.com/books?id=-S0xAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA555&dq=%22Windsor+soup%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=osQ7UsTNAab64AOkkIHICg&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=%22Windsor%20soup%22&f=false] Passing reference in 1912.[http://books.google.com/books?id=jRtIAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA684&dq=%22Windsor+soup%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=osQ7UsTNAab64AOkkIHICg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Windsor%20soup%22&f=false] Alternate name possible, 1900?[http://books.google.com/books?id=Ygv4XhF1l1wC&pg=PA29&dq=%22Windsor+soup%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=osQ7UsTNAab64AOkkIHICg&ved=0CE4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22Windsor%20soup%22&f=false] Going with "Potage Windsor" we start getting very distinct recipes that include "golden brown".[http://books.google.com/books?id=sTkEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA426&dq=Potage+Windsor&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h8Y7UoaZEfTi4AOkkYHYAw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Potage%20Windsor&f=false] From there go nuts it seems.[http://books.google.com/books?id=i4YPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA343&dq=Potage+Windsor&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h8Y7UoaZEfTi4AOkkYHYAw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Potage%20Windsor&f=false] With Potage Windsor having numerous appearances and "brown" attached to it, surprisingly with "calf's feet".[http://books.google.com/books?id=aNYpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA91&dq=Potage+Windsor&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Usc7Uqa3EIWi4AOhrIGACg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=Potage%20Windsor&f=false] Though the issue as a joke seems more likely at this point. [[User:ChrisGualtieri|ChrisGualtieri]] ([[User talk:ChrisGualtieri|talk]]) 04:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 
:For what it's worth, on a lark I stuck "Brown Windsor soup" into JSTOR and came up with a quote from a 50s routine from ''[[The Goon Show]]'' and an offhand 1956 reference by poet [[John Montague (poet)]]. Doesn't help track down the origins, but does show it was in wide usage in the 50s. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 04:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
:: I believe the joke is the creation of the 1950s, but I managed to find a full set in a relatively local library (60~ miles) though I doubt I'd have access and pull to get someone to physically check the books for the entry. It should be in the first volume if my suspicions are correct, but would it be under "Brown Windsor soup" or would it be under "Windsor soup" as other indications point to, or some other name like "Potege". Anyone else? [[User:ChrisGualtieri|ChrisGualtieri]] ([[User talk:ChrisGualtieri|talk]]) 15:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 
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* http://library.ttu.edu/
 
None of them are in my state, so I can't help you out there, sorry. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 18:45, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Also at Harvard (Hollis 002209968), Cornell ({{OCLC|5520463}} 8vols and {{OCLC|4925723}} 2vols)
[[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] <small>[[User talk:LeadSongDog#top|<span style="color:red; font-family:Papyrus;">come howl!</span>]]</small> 23:50, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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An article from the [[Evening Standard]] dated April 14, 2010 titled "Exam Slump Head Gets Pounds 150,000 and a Job in America", part of which is accessible [http://evening-standard.vlex.co.uk/vid/exam-slump-head-gets-pounds-job-america-193241951 here] and [http://article.wn.com/view/2010/04/14/London_exam_slump_headteacher_gets_150000_and_a_job_in_Ameri/ here].--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">Laun</font>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">chba</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<font color="#00F">ller</font>]]</span> 08:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 
:I can't find this article in Lexis/Nexis for some reason. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 17:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 
=== October 2013 ===
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[[User:Lesser Cartographies|Lesser Cartographies]] ([[User talk:Lesser Cartographies|talk]]) 16:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 
:What is MBC? [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 23:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 
::I wish I could tell you. Tanselle has several pages of abbreviations listed in the front of his book, and unfortunately google elides that particular page. [[User:Lesser Cartographies|Lesser Cartographies]] ([[User talk:Lesser Cartographies|talk]]) 17:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 
:::The only publication I could find with those letters was in Lexis/Nexis and refers to the [[Middle East Broadcasting Center]], which wasn't launched until 1991. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 18:06, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
:[[User:Lesser Cartographies|LC]] - MBC = [[Ruth_E._Adomeit#Miniature_book_collection|Miniature book collector]] and The Black Sun Press of Paris might be a miniature book at the Lilly Library at Indiana University . -- [[User:Jreferee|Jreferee]] ([[User talk:Jreferee|talk]]) 13:44, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 
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I'm working on an article for the [[Poncan Theatre]] ([[User:Chris857/Poncan Theatre|sandbox]]). [http://www.poncantheatre.org/poncan_history.htm This page] from the theater's website tells me that ''[http://www.poncacitynews.com/ The Ponca City News]'' has at least one article on the theater from August 7, 1927. I am interested in that one specifically, and any others that are relevant to the theater in their archives. I unfortunately cannot even search them, so I don't know what exists. Thanks in advance. [[User:Chris857|Chris857]] ([[User talk:Chris857|talk]]) 00:51, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 
:The Library of Congress has a lot of digitized newspapers online, but not apparently this one. Some libraries have this, so you might contact one of them to see if they have an index or digitized copies. The LoC lists some libraries which have it: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86064177/holdings/. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 03:54, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
:Sometimes a newspaper is willing to help, especially for something in their local ___domain as this is. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 07:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::{{ping|Atethnekos}}The Jagged_85 case is in a class of its own. I sincerely hope we never see anything like it again. What made his edits so damaging was that they ''looked like'' they were well sourced. A lot of editors don't check references; very few indeed check references which are not available online, and Jagged_85 frequently used hard to check sources with incomplete references. This was made far worse by his prodigious output, at one point he was in the top 100 editors by number of edits. He would copy the same bad material with bad references into a dozen articles. Not only does the boosterism cause confusion and perhaps even a backlash against the exaggeration, it's immensely damaging to Wikipedia's reputation. Wikipedia references are supposed to be how you know an article is well-sourced; if you can't trust what look like good references to scholarly articles, Wikipedia is nearly useless. Some of his mistakes have been used as examples in newspapers to show how unreliable Wikipedia is. I was never quite sure if they were mistakes; at the very least, he made definitive statements about things he didn't understand. Sometimes what he wrote was so ridiculous (Avicenna was the first to describe the lever was one of my favourites) then he must surely have known that he was essentially making it up.
::::It can take 100 hours work to clean-up even one article, given how time consuming it is to track down all the references. It also requires a fair amount of understanding quite difficult sources. One of his favourite tactics was to use an article that mentions X and Y to say that X ''invented'' Y, and you have to understand what the article actually does say before you can correct his edit. I did a philosophy degree and I'm happy skimming scholarly articles to get the required information, but I can understand why few others have the understanding and patience to get involved. The time I have available is fairly limited, although I have a bit more at the moment. If you feel the urge to get involved, I'm sure your help would be much appreciated. --[[User:Merlinme|Merlinme]] ([[User talk:Merlinme|talk]]) 18:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
:Inexplicably, my library has only volume 2, but if you ever need anything from that, let me know. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 19:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 
 
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* <s>Renton T, Durham J, Aggarwal VR. The classification and differential diagnosis of orofacial pain. Expert Rev Neurother. 2012 May;12(5):569-76. PubMed: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22550985] paywalled here: [http://www.expert-reviews.com/doi/abs/10.1586/ern.12.40?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3dpubmed].</s> Many thanks, [[User:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">'''Lesion'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">''talk''</span>]]) 04:59, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:Second article emailed. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 17:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 
==== Elixir Poisoning in Medieval China ====
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Thanks, [[User:Keahapana|Keahapana]] ([[User talk:Keahapana|talk]]) 23:37, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:[http://books.google.com/books?id=m_I8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA316 It's not complete] but it's something. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 06:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::Yes, thanks, I'd seen this truncated GB version, which is why I want the full article. [[User:Keahapana|Keahapana]] ([[User talk:Keahapana|talk]]) 00:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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If someone could provide me the entry on "Holocaust imagery and gun control", I'd be most grateful. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 05:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:I don't see that entry in the Table of Contents [http://hollis.harvard.edu/?q=Guns%20in%20American%20Society:%20An%20Encyclopedia%20of%20History,%20Politics,%20Culture,%20and%20the%20Law here].[[User:GabrielF|GabrielF]] ([[User talk:GabrielF|talk]]) 05:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
: It's on [http://books.google.com/books?id=oD46JBOhMU0C&pg=PA411& Google Books]. [[User:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkGreen;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 05:10, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::Looks like its in the 2012 edition but not the 2002 edition.[[User:GabrielF|GabrielF]] ([[User talk:GabrielF|talk]]) 06:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)