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*'''Comment''': A portion of the ''COMPUTE!'s Gazette'' article cited is available [http://bobshannon.org/gazette.htm on the subject's homepage]. —[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 01:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

** That hardly satisfies [[WP:GNG]] as it's 3-paragraphs in one article presumably not exclusively about him. There's no mention of him or his BBS in [[textfiles.com]], which is generally accepted as reliable source per [http://books.google.com/books?id=26NyHREJwP8C&pg=PA1926&dq=bbs+history&cd=1#v=onepage&q=bbs%20history&f=false]. The is also no mention of him or his BBS in [http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/software/ this list] (the site of [[BBS: The Documentary]]), which has over 800 software listed. The fact that he says on his home page "Skeptics abound as per me calling myself the founder of the BBS System." is a good reason to be very suspicious of anything sourced from there. See [[CBBS]], which matches the book source I linked above. [[User:Pohta ce-am pohtit|Pcap]] [[User_talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit|<small>ping</small>]] 01:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. Maybe ''especially'' since most of the sources pre-date Google. We shouldn't delete topics (even computer topics) just because publications discussing them are not readily available online. Understanding history of software (and the people associated with it) is an excellent thing for WP to document, and this seems like an obviously notable individual in that early history of PCs. <font color="darkgreen">[[User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters|LotLE]]</font>×<fontspan colorstyle="darkred" size="-2color:darkgreen;">LotLE</span>]]×[[User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters|<span style="color:darkred; font-size:x-small;">talk]]</fontspan>]] 01:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. Sole claim to notability, or source of interest from a computer history standpoint, is his BBS [[Electric Magazine]]. A move there is worth considering if better sourcing turns up (I spent the last half hour digging in my basement for that ''Compute!'s Gazette'' issue, to no avail), but I'm not seeing anything that would pass [[WP:BIO]]. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 01:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

*'''Note'''. Most of this article was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Shannon_(computer_programmer)&diff=prev&oldid=29958569 autobiographical]. See the old AfD for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FFounder_of_the_Bulletin_Board_System&action=historysubmit&diff=29819258&oldid=29807618 another IP] whose prefix matches this one, and admits to be Shannon. You may also want to read the comment made by [[Jason Scott Sadofsky]] ([[User:jscott]]) in [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Founder_of_the_Bulletin_Board_System|the previous AfD]]. The claim that his is the 1st [[Commodore VIC-20]] BBS is also dubious given that bbsdocumentary.com only lists one such system, and it isn't Shannon's; see [http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/software/COMMODORE/VIC-20]. The [[COMPUTE!'s Gazette]] snippet only mentions [[Commodore 64]] as platform for "Electric Magazine". [[User:Pohta ce-am pohtit|Pcap]] [[User_talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit|<small>ping</small>]] 02:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)