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:::::::::::::::I hate to keep harping these questions but I need to know, am I supposed to respond during this evidence phase to every thing listed here by my detractors? What are we at now? Over 100? And then I'm supposed to show evidence of good editing for myself and GSoW with my remaining 1000 words allowed? ArbCom can look at my edit history and those of the few GSoW editors that have chosen to out themselves, yet they are asking for me to supply evidence. AND do I need to respond to every diff that is listed here that is from a talk, user, admin conversation where the conversation might have become heated and the whole context is missing? And still do this within my 1,000 word limit? [[User:Sgerbic|Sgerbic]] ([[User talk:Sgerbic|talk]]) 21:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
{{od|::::::::::::::}}Sgerbic, I know from personal experience as a party that it is stressful. So you have my empathy on that. ArbCom is going to evaluate the evidence we receive. And we are going to do so in a deliberate and procedure bound way. It's kind of up to you how much you would like to share. I certainly understand why you choose not to train onwiki because it is, as you note, intimidating for many. But that is going to raise questions because Wikipedians are, by their nature, skeptical when something lacks transparency. Part of the value of ArbCom is in having people trusted by the community to characterize information that can't be made transparent. Either way, ArbCom will evaluate the evidence we do have, including how strong we think evidence is that someone is a GSoW member. Might we get some of it wrong? Perhaps which is why if you want to share evidence with us privately, that remains open to you and if not, well as someone bound by strict confidentiality agreements, I will understand without prejudice. ArbCom will absolutely evaluate evidence showing that you and other GSoW members have been harassed or otherwise treated in ways that violate behavior expectations. That is part of this process. As to word counts, we are in general quite open to extensions where they make sense. We want to make good decisions and the purpose of word counts is to make sure we're not overwhelmed with evidence, that we don't miss things because it was buried amidst lots of usefulness information. Given the amount of information you have that is pertinent to this case I would expect we'd be particularly open to reasonable extension requests from you. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:08, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry about the edit conflict Barkeep - So can you please explain if I'm responding to everything during the evidence phase? Or do I wait till the non-evidence (whatever criteria that is) is removed? Otherwise this is going to become quite tedious and me generally saying, "that's not how it happened and here is the context of the issue" and that will get even longer. I've tried to explain our training procedure on one of these giant lists of text on one of these admin groups - I believe it is also listed on the Sgerbic user page. I may present evidence of the pages that I have written, but I can't out my team, so it is up to them if they want to do so. But I expect it will be done privately as we mainly edit in main space and rarely deal with admin areas, thus avoiding drama. Already with all these comments my percentage of edits to main space is dropping. I have a page sitting here on my desktop that badly needs a rewrite, but I have lost all appetite for getting work done. [[User:Sgerbic|Sgerbic]] ([[User talk:Sgerbic|talk]]) 21:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
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