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:Technically you should be able to get the URL from the NYT website as a non-subscriber - you just wouldn't be able to see the full text that way. However, I'm not convinced this step is necessary. (Your other option I suppose would be to use no URL at all). [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 01:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

::Thank you, {{u|Nikkimaria}}. I can try that the next time I use an article from NYT on Proquest and see what happens. [[User:Teblick|Eddie Blick]] ([[User talk:Teblick|talk]]) 02:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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::{{Ping|Teblick| Nikkimaria}} ProQuest is best treated as an archive site. In fact, the cite template documentation is explicit about this

:::'''''To cite and quote an archived news article clipped with an information aggregation service requiring a subscription'''''

:::'''''<nowiki>{{cite news |last1= |first1= |last2= |first2= |date= |title= |trans-title= |url= |url-status= |language= |work= |___location= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date= |via= |quote=}}</nowiki>'''''

::Put the NYT URL in the URL paramater and the ProQuest URL in the archive-url parameter. You'll have to fill in archive-date, and ProQuest doesn't provide one; I would just put in the issue date. You can also use url-status to flip between making the NYT link primary or the ProQuest link primary. I would also make use of quote to include the relevant text which will help the reader who has access to neither. Another resource for pre-1922 NYT articles is newspaper.com. WikiPedia Open Library also arranges free subscriptions. They have a clipping feature where the full article image can be retrieved by anyone - you, as the subscriber, make the clipping, and anyone can click the link to see it. Of course, for artciles that span pages, they make things awkward. I also reocmmend paying attention to that via parameter.[[User:Dovid|Dovid]] ([[User talk:Dovid|talk]]) 17:44, 9 February 2022 (UTC)