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"As a result, the ACSH has been accused of being more of a public relations firm, and less of a neutral council on Science. " [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and_Health]
 
Well, maybe the site is reliable and maybe not. Looks like it might have some wise council sometimes. But that does not mean we should not prefer better sources when available, nor does it mean we do not attribute statements. If it weren't purportedly defending the mainstream, it would be considered a very unreliable source. Its "reliability" comes totally from its POV, since few here would for example think that the [http://parapsych.clubexpress.com/ Parapsychological Association] is an RS, although it is far more RS per policy. As it is, Quackwatch and similar sources should never be used unattributed, and I'm guessing that is the major point of contention in articles, as it has been in the past. I mean, read WP:RS. ——'''[[User:Martinphi|<span style="color:#6c4408;border:1px dashed #6c4408;padding:1px;background:#ffffff;">Martin<sup>phi</sup></span>]]'''</span> [[User talk:Martinphi|Ψ]]~[[Special:Contributions/Martinphi|Φ]]<span style="color:#ffffff;">——</span> 08:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 
 
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====Statement by Martinphi====
We went through this, it was clarified. It isn't about specific intellectual content, but helps to show when an editor is POV pushing. I'll have more later, perhaps, but parapsychology studies paranormal claims usually without confirming them, and often debunking them. That's what it is, so of course ectoplasm is part of parapsychology. Also: no, it hasn't been used against people with a mainstream POV, but only with a POV which wishes to do the same kind of defamatory stuff the ArbCom was responding to at the time. If debunking is mainstream, it's also not NPOV. ——'''[[User:Martinphi|<span style="color:#6c4408;border:1px dashed #6c4408;padding:1px;background:#ffffff;">Martin<sup>phi</sup></span>]]'''</span> [[User talk:Martinphi|Ψ]]~[[Special:Contributions/Martinphi|Φ]]<span style="color:#ffffff;">——</span> 20:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 
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