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as there are 70 of them in {{Cl|castle stubs}}. Speedy? [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 14:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Support. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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===Split of {{Cl|European boxing biography stubs}}===
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*{{Cl|Polish boxing biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Poland-boxing-bio-stub}}
Speedy anyone. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 01:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Speedy [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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Soon will be around 800 stubs. I would recommend splitting by region of Vietnam in categories. The regions are as follows [[Tay Bac|Northwest]]{{·}} [[Dong Bac|Northeast]]{{·}} [[Red River Delta]]{{·}} [[Bac Trung Bo|North Central Coast]]{{·}} [[Nam Trung Bo|South Central Coast]]{{·}} [[Tay Nguyen|Central Highlands]]{{·}} [[Dong Nam Bo|Southeast]]{{·}} [[Mekong Delta|Mekong River Delta]]
However I reckon it may be worth creating upmerged templates for every province of Vietnam if we are to consider the situation more long term. Sometime I'll get around to adding the communes of Vietnam which will make this split very reasonable. I propose creating the following templates and upmerging to the new regional splits. So for example CauMau-geo-stub would feed into {{cl|Mekong River Delta geography stubs}}.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
====Proposed categories====
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 13:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Support, surprised no others are viable too. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:There probably will be others, I've still got over 800 to check. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{cl|Asian film stubs}}===
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Create as a parent category to house the stubs by country and perhaps any outstanding films which don't hit 60. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
*'''Support''' Per the recent re-org of the "by country" stub cats for films, and a handy new category to house the recently created Sri-Lanka film stub! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 19:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{tl|Soup-stub}} and {{cl|Soup stubs}}===
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Advise we organise Food and drink stubs a little better. Many of the soups are not even stub categorized.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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===by country templates===
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' -Especially schools. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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:How do we deal with people who won medals competing for the Unified team? Do we classift them as USSR-, their later nationality or with a UnifiedTeam- template? [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Politics is the root of all problems huh? I'm not sure, perhaps administer both templates or use the perosns place of birth (either current day Serbia or Montenegro) to judge. you could always create templates to make it easier. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
==={{cl|Sri Lankan film stubs}}===
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my first nomination here. There are about 30 article can fit into this type.--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 17:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Categories require 60 articles minimum. I would support {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}} though. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Right then, give us {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}}. Cheers!--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 18:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure, I'm certain the others will have no objection. Perhaps you could stub 30 films and make the category viable? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
If you want to go ahead and create the category if you intend to ensure there are at least 60 asap then I have no objections either. But that would probably require more input from the others so I should wait for that. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:{{thank you}} Dr.Blofeld, about category; I usually don't write film articles. I wanted it for maintenance purposes. But in a year or so we'll have that much. Let's see then. Best of Luck!--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 04:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{cl|Algae stubs}}===
Bot generated now has 3000 stubs. Any suggestions? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
Could split by main {{cl|Algae taxonomic classes}} but could probably still use further divisional split. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:We now have over 5000. The two existing sub-categories appear to be classes, so lets start with that level and see how we do. Only problem is not all the classes have articles yet. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
A matter of time perhaps... Really we ought to contact the bot runner and get him to come to an agreement with stub sorting. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
===By-country templates for Euro-archaeology?===
{{cl|European archaeology stubs}} is of moderate size, and a by-country template split looks desirable (a UK-archaeology-stub would easily pass threshold, as well). Problem is, of course, that we're dealing with ancient history in countries notorious for the changes in borders over that time. Personally, I'd favour the usual "current borders" principle, but if there are better ideas, voice 'em. I'd like to at least propose a {{tl|UK-archaeology-stub}} / {{cl|United Kingdom archaeology stubs}}, and suggest debating on the rest. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 01:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:Permanent parent cat is split by curent nation so I see no problem in by country templates, categories for any that reach 60.[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' Me neither Waacs.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
===Category:Stub-Class black metal articles===
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*Please discuss this at [[Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion#.7B.7BBMB-stub.7D.7D.2C_.7B.7BBM-stub.7D.7D_.28redirect.29|Stub types for deletion]], where this was first listed. [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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I proposed this a while back [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:You may have proposed a {{cl|Black metal stubs}}, but I doubt that you proposed a {{cl|Stub-Class...}} anything here! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 20:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Ooops, I meant to post that under "library"!! just below here. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
==={{cl|Library stubs}}===
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:::A quick CatScan shows well over 65 articles which would qualify for {{tl|library-struct-stub}}, so I '''support'''. Cheers, [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 22:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::::{{tl|library-bio-stub}} probably is a good idea at this point too.--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|TM]] 04:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
I proposed this a while back [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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Propose finishing off the split of this cat with the remaining upmerged templates. It may require the reation of templates for historic nations such as {{Tl|Bohemia-Olympic-medalist-stub}}, do we want to do this (I think we already have USSR-, Czechoslovakia- and Yugoslavia-) and if so do we upmerge them to the relevent current countries stub cat? We already have 23 categories and 2 upmerged templates. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 12:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
How many articles do you think would fit the criteria Bohemian olympic medalist? I support in principle as we tend to be politically correct in such areas. ANy idea how many bios fit the bill? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Currently 3 articles with another 3 possible articles which I'll try to get round to creating at the weekend. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 08:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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As with recent splits, create the missing templates here. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 19:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Absolutely [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:On a related note, can upmerged templates for [[:Category:European film director stubs]] be created for each country, instead of having the Euro-film-director-stub template? '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 12:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd support that also. The European thing has gone on long enough.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Cheers Dr B. I thought I was going mad when I was adding Germany-film-director-stub, only to find it didn't exist! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 19:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm slowly working my way through the continent categories so I would support this as well. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 23:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah that is crazy! I think its time we changed the graphic for them too I hated the old one. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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==={{Cl|French church stubs}}===
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|European church stubs}} but now has 70+ articles. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 02:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Um well its look as if it has been created... Support anyway.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Sorry - I should have waited.<br>
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Surprised this hasn't been ID'd by now, 70+ articles identified, can see preliminary list on [[User:Minnecologies|userpage]][[User:Minnecologies|minnecologies]] ([[User talk:Minnecologies|talk]]) 03:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
*{{tl|forestry-stub}} certainly looks like it'd be useful - as long as there's a note that it's not to be used for geo-type articles about actual forests. '''Support'''. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 04:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Definately. COuld include both forest organizations and articles on forestry issues as well as any notable figures in this field. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Yup - though the orgs and bios should be double-stubbed with any other appropriate stub types, of course. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 11:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, we need a "forestry" stub - I specifically need one. chop chop ;)[[User:Nailgunner|Nailgunner]] ([[User talk:Nailgunner|talk]]) 22:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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propose upmerged by country templates. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 22:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Not done already? Surprised. Support.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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:::I'll say speedy create. for these and any other templates for foo-church-stubs for the euro cat. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 10:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, actually I did propose the creation of them and many other European ones a while back. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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=== {{cl|South American film stubs}} ===
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To mirror previous categories of [[:Category:European film stubs]] and [[:Category:African film stubs]]. I'm sure there's plenty of stub articles for films from [[:Category:Bolivian films|Bolivia]], [[:Category:Chilean films|Chile]], [[:Category:Colombian films|Colombia]], [[:Category:Venezuelan films|Venezuela]] and the other S American countries (ex. Argentina and Brazil) to make 60+ stubs. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 20:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:'''Support''' Not appropriate for Brazil or Argentina obviously as Lugs mentioned but the films from the other countries make it worthwhile and would tie stray stubs together. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Support, would be an idea to have my country templates rather than one for SouthAm. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, I forgot to say that originally - I'd do the upmerge template for each country, as per the European stubs. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 11:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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I've had a wild weekend. --[[User:AlbertHerring]] <sup>[[User_talk:AlbertHerring|Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!]]</sup> 19:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' Barnstar worthy! Do you have a stub count Albert? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:I...er, ''never'' keep count after a wild weekend... --[[User:AlbertHerring]] <sup>[[User_talk:AlbertHerring|Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!]]</sup> 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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*{{tl|Tombouctou-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|Bamako-geo-stub}} -for articles on places and suburns of the city district.
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:support templates with the following changes GaoML - there is apparently a Geo district in Burkina Faso, KayesML - there is a Kayes in Congo and SégouML - there is a village in Togo. I don't think we need region in the template but certainly when categories are created (And I Support these once they reach 60) i think it should be of the form F{{Cl|Foo Region geography stubs}}. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes of course, thanks for the note. Actually I think we can get away with them blank though. You see Kayes is only a small town in Congo, it will never get to the stage where we would need stub templates. Kayes in Mali is a region, cercle, commune and town. Also "Geo" district is also a different spelling and is a smaller disrtrict that is also unlikely to have a template created for it. Segou is only a village in TOgo whereas it is a region, cercle, commune and city. The region is probably the size of England at least. If you look on a world map you'll see these names have priority. There shouldn't be any problems without the ML, if in the unlikely event that conflicting tmeplates needed to be made in the future then we can always add an abbreviation after the new ones. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:thanks for that, I am happy that Segou and Kayes probably don't need disambig (we don't have templates for american towns of the same size) and the "Geo" was a misspelling on my part according to [[Gao (disambiguation)]] but seen as we don't even have an article yet I'm sure a template is many years off unless someone does a good going over of Burkina Faso. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 14:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 18:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Speedy''' [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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::If we go with the Foo-Olympic-bar then the US subcats (the only other country we have split this way) need to be renamed. I agree that we probably do need a rename to medallist at some point. I don't think we need both axis of split do you have a preference for either. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 08:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Not really - but I suspect that a further split will be needed sooner if we go for the EG/WG one. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 23:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hmm yes the naming does seem a bit of a mouthful. I support though based on numbers [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Hi. Sorry about the delay in responding fellas. I'm not sure what we should do about naming in all honesty. I would completely support the category and template naming conventions above. I would also support East and West templates.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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:Support as long as these are the other way round (Russia post 1991 and soviet 1917-1991). [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 21:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::Hehe, well spotted! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 08:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' -good catch Lugnuts![[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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{{tl|Romania-canoe-bio-stub}} has reached 60 propose {{Cl|Romanian canoeist stubs}} to fit in with post SFD name. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 11:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:Support. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 21:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:'''Go for it'''[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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