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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 07:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This probably should be moved up a little in the list of principles. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 09:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per my comments on the workshop. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 11:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:Support:
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In the spirit of [[Jacques de La Palice#Lapalissade|Monsieur de La Palice]]. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 11:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 20:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 12:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The links are to the ''article'' entitled "Gamergate controversy." I express no view as to whether there actually exists an identifiable real-world thing that is best described as a "GamerGate controversy," or whether a different designation would better describe the entire fiasco. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 06:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# "The dispute" actually comprises an entire series of disputes, some serious and others less so, some legitimate and others less so, some between two sides both acting in good faith and others less so. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I strongly agree with Brad --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# agreeing also with NYB's comment '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Agreed with Newyorkbrad. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 06:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Yes <s>on soapboxing; less convinced that these diffs prove "battleground." Supporting in the context of the proposed remedy below.</s> -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# added some diffs from the talk page --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Added a clause about their topic ban --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 11:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# True on its face, but I do not believe the conduct rises to the level of passing an arbitration finding against this editor. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The question presented as to Gamaliel is whether his engagement with the substance of "Gamergate" or related issues reached the level that would disqualify him from taking administrator action in this topic-area. I conclude that it did not. That said, there are times that even a borderline "involved" admin may best serve the project by stepping away from the area, given that if he or she does not, his or her participation may itself become a focus of dispute. But the argument for taking that step is mitigated when accusations of "involvement" are flung against substantially ''every'' admin working on the topic-area, and when for whatever reason, other admins are reluctant to intervene. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# No, just no. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I do not feel that this finding shows Gamaliel to be involved to a degree that he should avoid administrative actions. More or less per Newyorkbrad. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 09:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This feels like a content decision, but I agree that the sourcing was wrong. --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:10, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switching to a support<s>, albeit a weak one.</s> [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 23:58, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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::: The "sources" diffs, which David has now expanded below, aren't weak at all. It's a simple matter of comparing text A with text B and seeing if they match. They don't. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 17:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:Per {{u|GorillaWarfare}}. Not seeing this as written as anything that rises to the level of an arbitration finding. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:: <s>The battleground conduct is weak and I am not going to touch a misuse of source like this --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
::: Why aren't you going to touch misuse of sources? It's a well-established misconduct issue. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 17:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I don't see enough here to support a finding. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I share some of GW and Courcelles's concerns, but I think that this will roll --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I would prefer the alternative proposed by GW (and may propose it myself), but this can't pass by with no finding at all. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# First choice to 6. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 19:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice to 6 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Lovely, thanks for doing this. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:05, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#He deserves a week block for edit warring. Nothing else, that I can see after looking over the evidence, is that serious. The battleground comment diff is for a single less-than-thought-out comment. Strangely for Wikipedia, Tarc seems to have changed. I, like Brad, do not see the [[WP:POINT]] vios that have come up in the past. I strongly suggest to Tarc that he find an area of the encyclopedia to edit that is not related to a modern-day dispute. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# It works --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# As corrected. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Weakly. The third diff is, IMO, the worst. And the block is part of the record here. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# as the proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The third diff, especially, is well out of line. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 09:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#:Addid another diff. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 21:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Seems clear enough. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# this needs to be in here --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As proposer. I think the next to last diff is the worst, but the rest establish a pattern here. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 06:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 10:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# With some doubts about the very wide scope of point b. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC), modified 21:21 25 January (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I agree with the comments above --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Indeed with many thanks to those willing to wade into this mess. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per all above. Subject to possible tweaking concerning the scope. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Some minor copyedits (including the reference to pending changes). Any arb may revert the copyedits in whole or part if undesired. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 21:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# this replaces 11 for all practical purposes --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 05:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# First choice. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice, (though I have some doubts about the extent of "gender-related") '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# only choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 00:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 00:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#As I said in the FoF, I cannot support any arbitration finding concerning this editor over what they did in this case. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per my vote at the FoF --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# See my comment on the finding of fact. There is a more general, and frankly more interesting, discussion to be had somewhere about whether we are better off with admins specializing in specific sanctions-enforcement areas (who as a result may over time draw accusations of becoming embroiled or partisan in the controversy), or urging much wider admin participation in this role (with the tradeoff that admins will come to enforcement situations with less background on what has gone before). But I am not willing to single out a particular admin for a remedy (albeit a reminder only) in this case. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 23:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 10:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switching to support. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# switching to support. This is sadly needed --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 20:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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::<s> I can't decided and I will leave it to the rest of the committee --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 04:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Iff the topic ban does not pass. Still thinking about that one. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 18:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 04:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#Distant second choice. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per Courcelles '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In a package with 5.4 and 5.5. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 02:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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::: <s>Will prioritise later if need be, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# My preferred solution, though I admit it will not pass. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 11:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:'''Last Choice''' I would love to not do this but I don't think anything else has a snowball's chance of passing --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#::Removing in line with the fact that other things are passing. I don't want this to skate by under the radar --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Last choice of presented options (Right now). I think if we're dealing with this on a purely pragmatic level this might be best for the project, but I do think that it would only be fair to attempt to apply some of the alternatives first, although I'm a bit concerned as to their potential efficacy, given the history. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#*Neither will I. Need to contemplate the rest of it, but this is not the solution. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#* <s>Excessive in the circumstances. I'm open to some alternative. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
:#*I would like to try something else. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>I've decided to oppose this, albeit weakly. I'm hoping that the other remedies regarding Ryulong will end this situation, but I don't quite think a siteban is the best course forward here. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As proposer. Wordsmith as needed (and I suspect it needs some), but this is what I think is needed here. A last and final chance to conduct themselves appropriately. (Note that this makes sense if and only if the ban fails. So, oppose if the ban passes.) [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: In a package with 5.1 and 5.5. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#::Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to any other sanctions, but not in place of them. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In conjunction with any other sanctions. Ryulong has a long history of disruptively edit warring and that must stop. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In a package with 5.1 and 5.4. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Edit warring has definitely been a major issue here, so perhaps this will calm things. I agree with Beeblebrox that edit warring was not the only issue, but between this and the topic ban, I'm hoping we have a workable solution. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support alongside other sanctions. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 02:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: <s> '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
:# The battleground behavior here was repeated and appears deliberate. This wasn't one intemperate comment but a pattern. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#* --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 02:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: Reaffirming my strong opposition to this remedy. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 17:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>They're fairly far gone. If they return with the same problematic behavior bring them to ARCA, or apply the passed sanctions, but I don't see a reason to sanction this user, although I will note that their behavior ''was'' poor. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# on further reflection. If they become problematic DS will fix it --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 19:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 20:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# For balance, considering the nature of her infractions. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 08:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Second choice to topic bans; I don't think that this and a topic ban are necessary. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[iff]] the topic ban fails --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 00:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As I say above on the proposed finding, Tarc has behaved horrendously in past disputes. However, he has done nothing sitebanworthy in this one. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per my comments on the FoF. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 13:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#second choice [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 7.3 and 7.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 04:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support, no preference. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:In a package with 7.2 and 7.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to, not in lieu of, any other remedy (excepting 6.1). [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As proposer. Not sure what the specific hour level should be here, 24, 48, or 72, but I'm fine with any of those. I think there is a little too much of a tendency to revert on Tarc's part, that needs to be fixed. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 7.3 and 7.2 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to other remedies. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:06, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#I find myself wishing I could find some way not to support this. I kind of like TDA, but like other parties in this case, they appear not to have gotten the message from previous lesser sanctions so this would appear to be the only remaining option likely to have the desired effect. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 00:14, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I don't like this but I can't see another option --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Last choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# There are only so many topic bans that can be placed before we have to question whether someone ought to be participating here at all. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Last choice given the new alternatives provided. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 17:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# If the site ban does not pass '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.3 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice in a package with 8.3 and 8.4. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As proposer. Not sure what the specific hour level should be here, 24, 48, or 72, but I'm fine with any of those. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# If the site ban does not pass '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.2 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Second choice in a package with 8.2 and 8.4. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# This needs some (major?) wordsmithing. I've never liked the idea of site-banning TDA, and I think the combination of the three proposals would solve the problems, even though they ''are'' strict, even combined they are a lot less so than a site ban, and I think he can still be a productive contributor under them. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This is more restrictive than necessary in my view, but I can support it as part of an alternative to a siteban. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.2 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Second choice in a package with 8.2 and 8.3. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# In a package with the others --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Sure, though the other sanctions seem like they'd be warning enough. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# While GorillaWarfare has a point, the point of this is a remedy is the formal notice we can (and reserve the right to) ban by simple motion. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# as the proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Misconduct wasn't as severe or repeated as many others, hopefully this will suffice. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# On reconsideration, moving to support. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:29, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::: <s>On balance I don't think it rises even to admonition level. A simple "don't do it again" suffices. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 23:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:#I think this is more worthy of a formal reminder than the stronger admonishment. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 23:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Do you think we need an 8.1? --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Though there was poor behavior here, I don't think a formal admonishment is needed. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:22, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#First choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::<s>Will prioritise later if need be, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# Second choice. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Last choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# As the person who [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Scientology#Single purpose accounts|dug this up]]. I don't think warnings are needed here because this is meant to be an ulta-fast but light-weight version of DS to deal with the waves of SPAs that have and will enter the topic area to push an agenda. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 13:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 04:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I'm not a huge fan of how a couple of the topic bans came about, but this is a reasonable step. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per the relevant FoF. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:second choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Just barely. The diffs in the Findings are insufficient to support this remedy, but a review of on-wiki contributions indicates a topic ban would be beneficial in resolving the overall dispute. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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::* --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# Per all the above, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 12:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Not supported by the current evidence. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I rescinded the FoF that would have supported this --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|Faraone]]</font>''' 18:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Insufficient evidence at this time. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 14:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I'd like to applaud the voluntary disengagement, this is likely not necessary, but it makes some sense to have it on the books. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 08:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#as proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Given the revised FoF, I do not believe this editor will follow his topic ban. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 18:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In light of additional diffs in the FoF. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#Adapted from the ''Scientology'' case. This topic needs experienced editors who haven't been involved already to come in and ensure the articles follow policies such as RS, NPOV, etc. Not sure how much remedies like this actually ''do'' anything, but I do live in hope. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:53, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: For what it's worth, Scientology is stable, six years on. This was probably achieved by encouraging all the major players to move on, mainly with topic-bans, and the egregious ones to move out, with site bans. It took much of the invested heat out of the pages and left a calmer environment for neutral editors, who had been driven out, to work in. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 09:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I guess. Echoing Courcelles that I don't feel like these remedies do much of anything at all. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 04:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 16:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 03:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:::Please note that I've done this per the comments on 2.1 and the list. Would prefer to hold off closing the case to see if anyone feels this needs a revert and an alt. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 20:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
::::While that's resolved, I'm still here until P14 and R1.2 find majority. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 18:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::: to let NF vote --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Temporary oppose. We are close, but I believe there is a bit more finalization to be done in the next 24 hours or so. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB. I want another day to think about it. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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