Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment/Archive 19: Difference between revisions

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==== Statement by [[User:MuZemike|MuZemike]] ====

As feared, it is my opinion that this (as well as any such discussion involving TTN) has devolved into a inclusionist/deletionist debate. A lot of the AfDs he nominated I happen to agree with, but some I also have disagreed; but that's beside the point. It seems that more than anything many users — which include obviously biased editors, fanboys, and others with extremely vested interests in articles to the point of [[WP:OWN|ownership]] — want TTN with a proverbial rope around his neck, even to the point that some users have resorted to [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] and even [[WP:NPA|death threats]]. I only see this as a ploy to keep bugging ArbCom until they get the result they so desire. [[User:MuZemike|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#063;">MuZemike</span>]] ([[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]]</font>span (<font colorstyle="color:#063;">[[User talk:MuZemike|talk]]</fontspan>]]) 20:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

==== Statement by CharlotteWebb ====

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While I have no particular love for TTN, at this point I'm not exactly calling for his head either. He ''has'' nominated a rather large number of articles for deletion and redirected several others in the wake of his restriction lapsing, which I think is a bit excessive, but he doesn't seem to be engaging ''as much'' in the same "revert every attempt to restore the article and ignore all discussion" behavior which rallied the figurative Angry Mob With Pitchforks and Torches last time around. The fact that he is still doing it at all is troubling though, because it's causing the same sort of issues that effectively led to a wiki-wide edit war, only this time it's happening slower.

I honestly think TTN has put forth an effort to change, but somehow he's not quite gotten a handle on the whole "you don't have the final say" part of things. At this point I wouldn't endorse an indefinite re-extension of the restriction, but I would endorse a ''temporary'' re-extension for a few months just to "gently" re-affirm the point of the last RfArb. -- [[User:Yukichigai|Y&#124;yukichigai]] ('''_{<font color="blue">[[User talk:Yukichigai|ramble]]</fontsub style="color:blue;">ramble}]] <small><font color="red">[[User:Yukichigai/VA|argue]]</fontsmall style="color:red;">argue</small>]] ^{<font color="green">[[User:Yukichigai/C|check]]</fontsup style="color:green;">check}]]''') 15:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

: I would like to add that after reading [[#Statement_by_Wizardman|Wizardman's statement]] I most definitely agree: ArbCom needs to make some sort of definitive statement regarding TTN's behavior, one way or the other. Anything resembling a "no consensus" will simply delay things for a few months (or weeks) whereupon a new request for clarification will show up again. -- [[User:Yukichigai|Y&#124;yukichigai]] ('''_{<font color="blue">[[User talk:Yukichigai|ramble]]</fontsub style="color:blue;">ramble}]] <small><font color="red">[[User:Yukichigai/VA|argue]]</fontsmall style="color:red;">argue</small>]] ^{<font color="green">[[User:Yukichigai/C|check]]</fontsup style="color:green;">check}]]''') 22:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==== Statement by [[User:Gazimoff|Gazimoff]] ====

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I would encourage TTN to work with Wikiprojects in order to discuss his article concerns becore embarking on mass or large scale actions. I would also urge TTN to throttle or limit the rate at which he removes content or raises AfDs in order to ensure that the rest of the editing community has a legitemate chance to respond to his concerns.

Many thanks, '''''<font color="green">[[User:Gazimoff|Gazi]]</font><fontspan colorstyle="bluecolor:green;">Gazi</span>]][[User talk:Gazimoff|<span style="color:blue;">moff]]</fontspan>]]''''' 18:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==== Statement by [[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] ====