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== Is this needed? ==
I'd like to suggest consideration for removing this template, but I'd like to chat about it here before taking to TfD. A username block should be just that, a username block. Blocking a person because of an inappropriate username (no matter how trollish) goes against the grain of Wikipedia, nowhere else do we essentially BAN people from the project for a single poor decision. Just because someone makes an extraordinarily bad username doesn't mean they're going to be a troll or disruptor, plenty of folks make outrageous names or statements casually without intention to disrupt, and we are not equipped with crystal balls. Thoughts? - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY
*A name such as [[User:ChairboyIsGay]] does deserve immediate blocking as 9/10 times it's a sockpuppet and it seriously violates [[WP:NPA]], that is the scope of the template and it's use is (or should be) limited to that. [[User:GDonato|GDonato]] ('''[[User talk:GDonato|talk]]''') 16:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
**To clarify, I'm not talking about username blocking in general, it's the hard blocking that I object to (Account creation disabled, autoblock enabled, etc). - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY
***If a new user with a nice inoffensive name like Mary Jones (I haven't checked to see if there is such a user) immediately begins to post your real name and phone number all over Wikipedia, we block Mary Jones with account creation disabled. If someone registers an account called [[User:Chairboy's real name is X and his phone number is 1234567]], we also block with account creation disabled. Really offensive usernames are not made by people who are going to want to make useful edits tomorrow. And if the usernames are deliberate, stalkerish privacy violations, then the editor is certainly not a newcomer who is unfamiliar with Wikipedia. In any case, as far as I know, blocking the IP does not mean that the user can never create a new account — just that they have to wait a few days. [[User:ElinorD|ElinorD]] [[User talk:ElinorD|(talk)]] 16:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
****A note, my IP address stays the same for months at a time, and it's a dynamic IP, so the penalty we're talking about here can be pretty dang big for the transgression, and for many users amounts to a lifetime ban from Wikipedia. - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY
There are times when hardblocking based on usernames in necessary and appropriate. We're talking usernames that make it clear in themselves that the user is her to cause trouble. I would give the following as appropriate cases for immediate username hardblocks:
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**[[User:Fuck Nigga Pussy Cock Sex Gangbang Anal Terrorism]]
Username hardblocks should be used sparingly but are sometimes necessary. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 17:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Those are all good username blocks, but a lifetime ban from the project is pretty heavy medicine, and there's the assumption that these people can never ever contribute constructively to the project. - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY
::How is it a lifetime ban? Autoblocks wear off after 2 days... <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 17:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Does 'Account Creation Blocked' wear off in two days as well? - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY
::::Yes, I believe it does - we can't indefintely prevent the creation of accounts from a given IP without blocking the IP itself... <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 17:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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