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*'''Oppose 1st''', '''support 2nd''', move [[Java (disambiguation)]] → [[Java]]. The programming language dominates search results and page views, and has slightly more incoming links. It seems to be the [[WP:primary topic|primary topic]] by usage around the English-speaking world. However, the island remains primary by long-term significance. Where the two criteria disagree, putting the dab at the base name serves our readers best. Even if justified, a new primary topic would break a lot of incoming external links. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 08:51, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
:<small>Note: WikiProjects [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation|Disambiguation]], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia|Indonesia]] and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Software|Software]] have been notified of this discussion. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 09:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment''' - an island of 130 million people (in itself larger than all but just a handful of whole countries) and 1000s of year history may not be the primary topic? I get that we wikipedians are a bunch of early 20th century computer geeks, but a programming language is rather insignificant and transient in relation to the island of Java. --[[User:Merbabu|Merbabu]] ([[User talk:Merbabu|talk]]) 09:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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