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**'''Add''' Just curious about the page views, does anyone know what is going on [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2019-05-16&end=2022-05-16&pages=Java_(programming_language)|Java here]? –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 19:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
**:Views for [[C (programming language)]] track those for Java (pl) very closely. Perhaps they jump when university courses start and stop or switch between home and on-site working due to Covid. I can imagine 100 students each loading the page at home vs. one corporate server caching it for everyone in term time. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 22:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
*<s>'''Oppose''' 1st, '''support''' 2nd -- The programming language probably fails long-term significance (depending on how long you measure 'long-term' in the future direction.), but there's no clear primary topic here. Dab page seems best.</s> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 23:08, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Question:''' To those proposing the island is not the primary topic, if hypothetically, the programming language was not called "Java", but "California", what would you suggest is the primary topic? The US State or the computer language? Noting that if it was a country, Java island would be the '''8th largest''' in the world by population (larger than Russia, Mexico, Japan, Germany). It is also the central powerhouse of Indonesia, the fourth largest country in the world. California by comparison would be the '''38th largest country'''. --[[User:Merbabu|Merbabu]] ([[User talk:Merbabu|talk]]) 23:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
*:It's an interesting point to which I can't conjure a convincing answer, so I think I'll strike my above comment. The annual pageviews for California are higher than Java (programming language), but even if they weren't I'd still say California. [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 00:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose both''' - for the various reasons I (and others) suggest above including systematic bias, and long term relevance. --[[User:Merbabu|Merbabu]] ([[User talk:Merbabu|talk]]) 23:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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