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{{sent}} third – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 15:14, 11. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

== Non-English language material for folktales ==

1.

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* {{strikeout|Christensen, Arthur. ''Persische Märchen''. Eugen Diederichs Verlag, 1979. pp. 7-20 (German text), 301 (Anmerkungen on Tale nr. 1).}}

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For [[Animal as Bridegroom]]. The pages refer to a Persian/Iranian variant of ''Cupid and Psyche''. Only this tale and the ''Anmerkungen'' (Annotations) for it on page 301.

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2.

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* {{strikeout|Keller, Gabriele. ''Märchen aus Samarkand: Feldforschung an der Seidenstraße in Zentralasien; aus der mündlichen Überlieferung in Usbekistan''. Druck und Werbestudio, 2002. pp. 42 (source), 43ff (Tale nr. 5, ''Chötiktscha''/''Xo’tikcha''), 153ff/156 (commentaries). {{ISBN|9783000092282}}.}}

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For [[Animal as Bridegroom]]. The tale is a Uzbek variant of the tale type. Page 42 indicates the informant; around page 153 there is some extensive commentary on the Turkic language variants, and on page 156 is the classification.

ITEM 2 HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

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3.

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* {{strikeout|Keller, Gabriele. ''Märchen aus Samarkand: Feldforschung an der Seidenstraße in Zentralasien; aus der mündlichen Überlieferung in Usbekistan''. Druck und Werbestudio, 2002. pp. 53 (source), 54ff (Tale nr. 7, ''Die goldhaarigen Zwillingskinder''), 162ff.}}{{ISBN|9783000092282}}.

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For [[The Three Golden Children (folklore)]]. The pages indicate a variant of type 707. Page 53 tells who was the teller/informant; text is on page 53ff; pp. 162ff (Commentaries on Tale nr. 7) has annotations on other Central Asian variants.

ITEM 3 HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

Thanks, [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 03:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} I think, I can get items #2 and #3 for you, too. – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 08:55, 17. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

::Thank you. Take the time you need.[[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 11:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} {{sent}} item #2 and #3 – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 19:51, 17. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

: Hello. I checked the book you sent and unfortunately that was not the book I wanted. I was looking for Uzbek tales ''Chötiktscha''/''Xo’tikcha'' (tale type 425B) [https://books.google.com.br/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&redir_esc=y&hl=pt-BR&id=UiDaAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22Gr%C3%BCnkappe%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Ch%C3%B6tiktscha%22] and ''Die goldhaarigen Zwillingskinder'' (tale type 707). At any rate, the pages mention other tale types I will look into. A blessing in disguise, I guess... [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 20:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

:: {{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} but I sent you ''Märchen aus Samarkand'' from 2004 by Keller, Gabriele. That's what you wanted in your items #2 and #3. The {{ISBN|9783000092282}} matches it too. Did you make the mistake or did I? – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 08:07, 20. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

::: oh, your Google Link is 2002 edition, right? But not 2004. – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 08:10, 20. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

:::: I'm sorry if I wasn't so clear. To my mind, Googlebooks ''can'' be a trusted source, but sometimes it ''does'' lead to some confusion. [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 10:44, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

::::: Unfortunately they're often mistakes on the information data of Google Books. – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 13:45, 20. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

so, items 2 and 3 are not accessible for me, but I'm trying item #1 – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 14:25, 20. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

: Okay, I wrote the tales I wanted in the respective requests for clarification. Thank you for the help. [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 14:33, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} {{sent}} item #1 – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 16:46, 23. May 2022 (UTC)</small>

:Thank you. Item 1 has been received. Reading it now. [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 03:03, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} {{sent}} items #2 and #3 – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 13:08, 5. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

: oh I didn't remember the discussion above. Maybe items #2 and #3 are wrong again? – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 13:47, 5. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

::: Worry not, {{ping|Doc Taxon}}. I've just checked your email. The tale nr.7 in what you sent me is tale type ATU 675, "The Lazy Boy" (aka. ''[[Peruonto]]'' and ''[[Emelian the Fool]]''). Will serve to expand thorse articles. As for the tales of the request, I rechecked the googlebooks link and it appears the book is from 2002 (dunno how I mistook the year):

* ''Chötiktscha'': https://books.google.com.br/books?id=UiDaAAAAMAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22Ch%C3%B6tiktscha%22&q=%22Ch%C3%B6tiktscha%22&hl=pt-BR&redir_esc=y

* ''Die goldhaarigen Zwillingskinder'': https://books.google.com.br/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&redir_esc=y&hl=pt-BR&id=UiDaAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22Ch%C3%B6tiktscha%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Die+goldhaarigen+Zwillingskinder%22

[[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 14:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

: {{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} I could find a table of contents of 2004 book. With this you need the chapters 6 and 8. Is it okay for you to get the chapters from 2004 book? ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1juU2pWFYaY7oQ2lMGLIUFaYVj3VNDZY7/view?usp=sharing table of contents]) – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 13:40, 6. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

:: Strange... Judging by the ''Inhalt'' ("Summary"), the book is indeed this one, although the 2002 edition lists them as tales nr. 5 and 7. But indeed: tales ''Choktischa'' (tale nr. 6) and ''Die goldhaarigen Zwillingskinder'' (tale nr. 8), and their notes.[[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 13:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

::: Hi {{ping|KHR FolkMyth}} Now I {{sent}} the correct chapters from Keller's ''Märchen aus Samarkand''. Greetings, – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 03:08, 13. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

:::: Thank you! Sorry for any truble I caused. [[User:KHR FolkMyth|KHR FolkMyth]] ([[User talk:KHR FolkMyth|talk]]) 12:26, 13 August 2022 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}

== Jean Aubin ==

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* {{cite journal |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Aubin |first=Jean |date=1976–1977 |title=La propriété foncière en Azerbaïdjan sous les Mongols |work=Le monde iranien et l’Islam |publisher=Librairie Droz |___location=Geneva |volume=4 |pages=79–154 |doi=}}

* {{cite journal |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Aubin |first=Jean |date=1991 |title=Shaykh Ibrāhīm Zāhid Gīlānī (1218?-1301) |work=Turcica:Revue d'études turques |publisher=Peeters |___location=Leuven |volume=23 |pages=39–53 |doi=10.2143/TURC.23.0.2014187}}

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For [[Zahed Gilani]], [[Ispahbads of Gilan]]

Thanks, [[User:Benyamin|Benyamin]] ([[User talk:Benyamin|talk]]) 21:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|Benyamin}} {{doing}} request #2 – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 10:54, 29. Jun 2022 (UTC)</small>

: {{ping|Benyamin}} {{sent}} request #2 – [[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] [[File:Blue and yellow ribbon UA.png|15px]] <small>[[User talk:Doc Taxon|Disk.]]</small> •<small> 11:57, 30. Jun 2022 (UTC)</small>

::request #2 received from User:Doc Taxon. [[User:Benyamin|Benyamin]] ([[User talk:Benyamin|talk]]) 12:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

::I'm now waiting for request #1. [[User:Benyamin|Benyamin]] ([[User talk:Benyamin|talk]]) 12:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

:::Can you provide a link to a library catalog or other link of some kind for request #1? I'm trying to find it but the results don't seem to be quite what you're looking for. Best, '''[[User:L235|KevinL]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·''' [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 05:55, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

::::{{ping|User:L235}} Oh, excuse me. I see your message right now. [[User:Benyamin|Benyamin]] ([[User talk:Benyamin|talk]]) 10:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|Benyamin}} I just sent you the other article. Kind regards, – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> •<small> 03:17, 13. Aug 2022 (UTC)</small>

:{{ping|Doc Taxon}} Received. Thank you so much. [[User:Benyamin|Benyamin]] ([[User talk:Benyamin|talk]]) 10:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

{{tl|Resolved}}