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:#:Absolutely. I would definitely look to assist with the CU VRT queues as I know these are often under-staffed and rely on one or two people. [[User:Firefly|<span style="color:#850808;">firefly</span>]] <small>( [[User talk:Firefly|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Firefly|c]] )</small> 21:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
:#You mention that you are active in UPE work, what is the line between investigating UPE and investigating socks with CheckUser in your mind? -- [[User talk:AmandaNP|<span style="color:white;background-color:#8A2DB8"><b>Amanda</b> (she/her)</span>]] 05:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
:#:Thanks for the question Amanda. Undisclosed paid editing does not have to involve sockpuppetry, but in practice almost always does - in the simplest case, as there is a financial motive behind whatever editing the operator of the account is trying to achieve, they will try to evade a block in order to achieve their ends and get payment. However a fair amount of UPE is more sophisticated, involving whole farms of accounts operated by multiple people that are 'aged' to make them seem more legitimate (for a particularly complex example we have [[Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Orangemoody|the Orangemoody case]]). In these cases CheckUser can be of limited utility, as the operators will often use novel proxies and/or work from disparate locations. There may well still be technical "tells" that can be used to connect accounts that are behaviourally linked, but it requires more work than simple sockpuppetry.
:#:I think all this ultimately distills down to: if a case involves a suspected undisclosed paid editing operation, weight behavioural evidence more highly and bear in mind the potential setup of such organisations when reviewing technical evidence. Conferring with CheckUsers experienced in detecting UPE would also be a solid idea. [[User:Firefly|<span style="color:#850808;">firefly</span>]] <small>( [[User talk:Firefly|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Firefly|c]] )</small> 08:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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