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:#* Just a quick note to acknowledge that I have seen this and hope to answer tomorrow. Apologies for the delay. --[[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]] ([[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]]) 20:18, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
:#* The two issues are of course distinct in that proving them individually works very differently: CU shows IPs, but it can't reveal intent, and is accordingly not very useful for proving UPE. However, a huge chunk of moderately sophisticated UPE activity{{efn|By which I mean things like PR operations or individuals that offer black-hat Wikipedia "services" and consciously try to violate the TOU and exploit Wikipedia's open nature, as opposed to company interns who are asked to copy-paste their latest marketing brochure into the article about the company, small business owners who try to push an article about their one-man tyre repair operation into mainspace, and similar kinds of misguided-but-not-inherently-malicious actor.}} entails socking of one kind or another, be it through block evasion or concurrent use of multiple accounts. In those cases, the line softens: If, in the course of investigating an account for UPE, credible suspicions of illegitimate use of multiple accounts surface, it can still be appropriate to run a check and take action based on the results{{snd}}a caveat being that CU is often of limited usefulness in UPE cases because of proxy use, "decentralised" meatpuppetry, or difficult ranges. --[[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]] ([[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]]) 15:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
:#What is your take on blocking IPs and accounts using the {{tl|checkuserblock}}? A lot of these are often applied as indefs or large rangeblocks that often last years at a time and often deny large mobile IP ranges due to a vandalism. Should these be treated as arbcom decisions or [[WP:OFFICE|office actions]] where other administrators can't undo or should these be done by consensus? [[User:NYC Guru|NYC Guru]] ([[User talk:NYC Guru|talk]]) 11:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
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