Help talk:Unreviewed new page: Difference between revisions

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::::::You added this entire sentence "Drafts, including articles moved to draft, are also deleted if they are not edited for more than six months." There is no need to be explaining details of draft space to this audience. That should be explained to someone when/if there article is moved - it doesn't belong in this summary. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 05:52, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

:::::::Thanks, I'll remove that part pending discussion. I did think it was important to mention though, because we told people they could use draftspace undisturbed "for a while", but this is only true up to a hard deadline. Also, while this page is ostensibly about the review process, it is currently [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Help:Unreviewed new page|only used]] in a message sent to people when their article is moved to draft. It seems to me that if we're going to do that we need to give a bit more space to drafts here. Would you prefer to mention G13 in the drafts section? What do you think, {{ping|Peppery}}? &ndash;&#8239;[[User:Joe Roe (mobile)|Joe]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Joe Roe (mobile)|talk]])</small> 06:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

:::::::: I didn't get that ping because you misspelled my username, but anyway I don't care. I only care that you don't state things that are technically incorrect or give false impressions, which I felt the original wording I modified did. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 14:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

::I think links are helpful to give context on wiki-insider jargon that new users may not be familiar with, and are widely used across help pages for that reason. However, I can tone it down and we can discuss them on a case-by-case basis.

::For example, I really think it's helpful to link "Wikipedia's core content policies"/"core policies" to something. A long-standing problem with NPP's communication has been the use of phrases like "not ready" or "minimum standard" without actually saying what that standard is. Linking to [[Wikipedia:Core content policies]] right at the start tells users what we actually expect from articles, which may be obvious to reviewers but can be opaque to new users. &ndash;&#8239;[[User:Joe Roe|Joe]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 05:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)