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I feel like the part about public ___domain/compatibly-licensed text ({{tq|some material may be in the public ___domain or compatibly licensed for reuse in Wikipedia}}) should be deleted. I was going to wikilink to [[Help:Adding open license text to Wikipedia]], but this is such a niche case I am not sure it belongs in a [[KISS principle|basic overview]] of the process. I am a relatively new NPR but I have yet to encounter a single new article that contained PD/licensed content. For compatibly licensed images, there definitely needs to be more explanation; it is not an intuitive concept. This might need to be the subject of another newbie guide—[[Help:Introduction to images with Wiki Markup/2|the newbie image page]] unhelpfully says that files must be "compatibly licensed" without elaboration or links to more information. There is [[:File:Licensing tutorial en.svg]], but I think some prose might be beneficial. For now, I think we should link to [[Wikipedia:Uploading images#Determine copyright status]]. I would rather a newbie be overwhelmed than commit a crime (namely, copyright violations). Thoughts?<span id="HouseBlaster:1667871274747:Help_talkFTTCLNUnreviewed_new_page" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|Blaster]]<sup>[[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]</sup> 01:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC)</span>
:Agreed that COPYVIO is often poorly understood by even many experienced users and admins, and you are right that this page is not designed to cover every eventuality. The licencing system is a minefield - only yesterday I found a clear 'own work' graphic of mine tagged for deletion at Commons. However, this system is so new (only hours old) that it would be a presumption to suggest it needs changes already. I would wait until it has been in operation for a while and let the affected page creators speak for themselves. If they suggest the page has not been very helpful, then it can be improved. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 04:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::I agree that it does not "need" changes—very little onwiki "needs" to be fixed. Copyright issues do in fact need to be fixed, so I believe we should proactively prevent them. With all due respect, I politely disagree that we need to wait for feedback: we improve pages without prompting from the intended audience all the time. [[Wikipedia:The perfect article|The perfect article]] does not exist; look at the second sentence in [[Wikipedia:Editing policy]]. This page always can, and should, be improved.<span id="HouseBlaster:1667929429546:Help_talkFTTCLNUnreviewed_new_page" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|Blaster]]<sup>[[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]</sup> 17:43, 8 November 2022 (UTC)</span>
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