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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect [[Pascal (programming langauge)]]. Please participate in [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 11#Pascal (programming langauge)|the redirect discussion]] if you wish to do so. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 18:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
== "Bogged Down" ==
In the introduction, the article says that the ALGOL X process "Bogged down". I don't understand what this means. From my understanding, it could mean the process slowed down on its own, but also could mean that the process was slowed down by the introduction of ALGOL W. I think the article would benefit if someone <del>corrected</del> <ins>clarified</ins> this. [[User:Bepvte|Bepvte]] ([[User talk:Bepvte|talk]]) 00:10, 30 November 2019 (UTC); edited 00:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
: I don't understand what happened either. [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 00:13, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
:: It's an informal and unreferenced phrase tht we're trying to interpret here, so maybe no really clear outcome is achievable. (And the phrase should probably be replaced, either way - with owt clearer if we can clarify usefully, and with owt less obscure, less vague, if not.)
:: The [[ ALGOL X |Algol X article]] tells a lot, via its links and references - mainly the [https://www.cwi.nl/system/files/com/presentation%20Lambert%20Meertens.pdf November 2016 paper, ''ALGOL X and ALGOL Y'',] listed as an external link; the article's references [http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/algol/algol_bulletin/A22/P310.HTM 5] and [http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/algol/algol_bulletin/A25/P01.HTM 6] may be worth a look too. In summary, it seems tht the IFIP Working Group drew together all the right people, but they delegated to a small subcommittee which split and the work stalled: Wirth stepped away, continuing independently.
:: I remember reading much nearer the time tht [[Niklaus Wirth]] had shared his ideas, on an Algol-60 successor, with a colleague on (? ) the IFIP Group's subcommittee; and had been astonished (? putting it politely) when that colleague put forward proposals in a very different spirit at the subcommittee's next meeting.
:: A lovely story I also read was tht from time to time people would ask Wirth how to pronounce his name; and he would reply using Algol-60 terms: tht "in Europe they tend to call me by name [the correct form, tht one might spell in English as ''veert'']; but in America people call me by value [''worth'']."
:: – [[User:SquisherDa|SquisherDa]] ([[User talk:SquisherDa|talk]]) 02:11, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
::: Yes, I love that quote. [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 02:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
:::: Can U source it?? It really ought to go in [[ Niklaus Wirth |the article on him]] if we can!! – [[User:SquisherDa|SquisherDa]] ([[User talk:SquisherDa|talk]]) 02:24, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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