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:@[[User:Serial Number 54129|Serial Number 54129]]: {{sent}} and hope it's the requested one ... – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 19:55, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

::Thanks very much, {{u|Doc Taxon}}, that's the one! [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:blue">SN54129</span>]] 21:45, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

== Date of birth of [[Deborah Raffin]] (US actress, born in the 1950s) ==

Any reliable source stating the date of birth of that actress. Preferably before June 2006 (date at which the Wikipedia article was created), because I have a suspicion of [[Wikipedia:Citogenesis]] to all that came later (in particular the LA Times obituary). See [[Talk:Deborah_Raffin#Sourcing_for_the_date_of_birth?]] for context. There was an IMDB entry before then, so there could be extra-Wikipedia citogenesis in theory, but (1) fact-checking standards were higher in 2006 than 2012 and (2) careless copying by journalists is more frequent from Wikipedia than from IMDB.

I do not need direct access to the source - the date of birth it gives along with a reference to the source (with as many details as possible of course: publication, page, etc.) would be sufficient.

For [[Deborah Raffin]]

Thanks, [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]^{[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)</span>]]} 11:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

:I can confirm the 1953 year of birth (see MARRIED . . . WITH PROFITS Deborah Raffin and Michael Viner want you to curl up with a good cassette. By: FELDON-MITCHELL, ALEX TRESNIOWSKI LEAH, NOLAN, CATHY, People, 00937673, 11/8/93, Vol. 40, Issue 19). Also, through the Wikipedia Library, I was able to narrow the date down from 3 January to 16 April using pre-2006 sources.

:There is a reference in the ''[https://www.ocregister.com/2009/03/13/celebrity-birthdays-whos-another-year-older-march-13-2/? Orange County Register]'' that the birthday is on March 13 and that she is 56 at the date of publication (2009-03-13). [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/deborah_raffin Rotten Tomatoes] also gives that date, though I'm not sure if the source is considered generally reliable for biographical data aggregation as RSP makes no indication of this.

:In my opinion, given that we have two RSs (LA Times and OC Register) and the date range from other sources indicates plausibility that the date is correct.

:If you are really unsure, you may order an [https://www.lavote.gov/home/records/birth-records/birth-records-request/online-request informational certified copy] from the LA county clerk office. This will be definite information and anyway California's birth records are public (EDIT: don't bother about that, I wouldn't pay $41 for this. [[User:Szmenderowiecki|Szmenderowiecki]] ([[User talk:Szmenderowiecki|talk]]) 13:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

::{{u|Tigraan}}, also, I searched [[Ancestry.com]] via the Wikipedia Library (you need to request access before seeing the collection), which, based on some govt records from California and Nevada says that the date is March 13. And so says her [https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/101106857/deborah-raffin tombstone] as well (one of their sources). Overall, citogenesis appears to be highly unlikely in this case. [[User:Szmenderowiecki|Szmenderowiecki]] ([[User talk:Szmenderowiecki|talk]]) 15:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

::: I fully agree with this. – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 17:11, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Tigraan|Tigraan]], [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/120788720/detroit-free-press/] Detroit Free Press (1983). [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 19:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

The 1983 newspaper clip is good enough for me. Thanks everyone! [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]^{[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)</span>]]} 09:31, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

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