Mikeatnip

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Well, I've seen some time now that you refuse to accept that Jim Roberts' group, The Brethren, is a cult. Look, I know that maybe you have a little sympathy for the members of this "religion" because you are a member of a religion ([[Anabaptism]]) whose principles resemble in some segments with The Brethren (believe me, I already checked and researched due to awkwardness and reluctance on your part to accept about it). The problem is that I was a neighbor of families that were destroyed by this organization (my first girlfriend had a family member who is still missing because of them) and even local journalists where I live have called them a cult. That's why I ask you (with all due respect, because I'm very puzzled and surprised): why this reluctance to accept that The Brethren is a cult? Unless you have a friend or relative who is a member of that religion, I don't understand why you would show sympathy for a religious organization that has been accused of kidnapping and brainwashing (and which has personally affected my social circle). Look, I'm being honest and respectful, I just don't understand your sympathy for them. I just want to know why... [[Special:Contributions/2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750|2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750]] ([[User talk:2804:14C:5B41:8B9E:BC90:D0EF:F709:6750|talk]]) 02:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

:One of the reasons the group has been secretive is because of having family members force (yes, FORCE, as in push a member into a car and drive them away against their will) people to leave the group. So where is the "cult" at: with the group that allows anyone to leave at any time or with family who absolutely refuses to accept their son's or daughter's adult decision to try to live in literal obedience to Jesus? Has the Jim Roberts group ever FORCED people join their group? No.

:The issue of people calling a group they do not agree with a "cult" is not limited to Jim Roberts group, no not by a long shot. About any religious group out their has ex-members and detractors who are ready to sling mud at those they disagree with. Perhaps if families would just accept that their child or brother/sister has decided to take a different approach to life, and not try to FORCE them back into their philosophical/religious worldview, that child/brother/sister would be more willing to come around and visit.

:All that said, I personally think the Jim Roberts group did take a more protectionist stance than was ideal. But when you look at it from their standpoint, of having their members taken away by FORCE, then their "going underground" really makes a lot of sense. Think: "persecution."

:If family members would have just accepted their son/daughter/brother/sister's decision to live a distinct lifestyle, I suspect that the going underground would have never happened. But when you have private detectives looking to hustle you into a car and FORCE you into a lifestyle you have chosen to turn away from, then running and hiding is the only option. Or, fighting back, which the group does not do, since they are pacifists.

:On another note, anonymous users are welcome to edit Wikipedia, but people who make an account and use that account to make edits are generally taken more seriously, since there is more accountability with an identified user. [[User:Mikeatnip|Mikeatnip]] ([[User talk:Mikeatnip#top|talk]]) 13:06, 8 April 2023 (UTC)