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:1.9k ^ [[User:Jasonbrown1965|Jasonbrown1965]] ([[User talk:Jasonbrown1965|talk]]) 06:15, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
::@[[User:Jasonbrown1965|Jasonbrown1965]], I'm very much not a fan of this page either. It should be formatted more as a back-end list of different attempts at making a starting page than an actual starting page itself, and it should never be the place we send newcomers. I think [[Help:Introduction]] does a somewhat better job, although it's still longer than it ought to be. Overall, Wikipedia has an inherent amount of complexity that'll never fully be simplifyable, but we can do a lot better. Regarding your search box idea, the present search box at the top of each page is capable of ___location help pages if you just prefix your query with "WP:" or "Help:". Of course, that's only useful if people actually know to do it... <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 06:43, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
:::Had a quick look at Help:Introduction and yes much better job.
:::Suggestion: Could an interim answer be as simple (ha!) as beginner/advanced toggles?
:::And/or, more appropriately, simple, well-flagged wikipedia pages.
:::Suggestion: legacy wordhacks suggest simple draft text, and,
:::hand-off to more technically competent editors?
:::Further suggestion: drafting process NOT take place on "Talk" pages.
:::Why? The full-screen text format 'might' be comfortable for coders,
:::but information overload for anyone else.
:::Query: is there an app for ^ that?*
:::Agreed: "Of course, that's only useful if people actually know to do it"
:::Exactly. Thanks for the prompt, from whence come suggestions.
:::Comment: Emphathise with any and all editors/admins/techs,
:::having to make Wikipedia aircraft carrier turn like a gunboat. I'm
:::grateful to get feedback.
:::ps: late reply, still getting over a double-concussion.
:::Sometime brain work. Sometime nah.
:::Excuse line breaks,
:::easier for brain
:::* e.g. an app that turns a hideous wall of text into something mobile-friendly, responsive [[User:Jasonbrown1965|Jasonbrown1965]] ([[User talk:Jasonbrown1965|talk]]) 08:14, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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