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Not sure why there's the memory errors, but all the articles uses of [[Module:Wikidata]] are borked. [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|talk]]) 22:19, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:That page's corresponding Wikidata page is currently 3,222,389 bytes, with 2,631 statements, putting it at #90 overall on the [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LongPages&limit=100&offset=0 Wikidata list of long pages]. Something probably needs to be done to improve efficiency of querying such a large page, or to reduce the size of the page. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 22:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
== Reference formatting bug when using "author name string" (P2093) ==
When a reference on Wikidata includes the "author name string" qualifier, the resulting citation is formatted improperly. It should be formatted the same way as when the "author" (P50) qualifier is used. See the reference 1 on [[GNU GRUB]] for example. This issue was already [[Module_talk:Wd/Archive_1#Improved_citation_formatting|discussed in 2020]], but it seems that it wasn't solved.
[[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 09:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
:It looks it is related to [[Module:Wd/i18n]]. Maybe it could be fixed by adding something like <code>[aliasesP.authorNameString] = "author"</code> between the line 60 and 71. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
=== Template-protected edit request on 2 March 2023 ===
{{edit template-protected|Module:Wd/i18n|answered=yes}}
Please copy the contents of the revision 1142478456 of [[Module:wd/sandbox/i18n]] into [[Module:wd/i18n]] and the contents of the revision 1142479763 of [[Module:wd/sandbox]] into [[Module:wd]]. It is the fix for the bug described in the section above. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for looking into this. Have you got any test cases where we can check that everything is working properly? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 17:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
::I don't have any new testcases. I'm not sure how do the testcases of this module work, but [[Module:wd/testcases/1]] references only the original module and testcases 2 and 3 also reference the sandbox. I've made a tweaked copy of testcases/1 at [[Module:wd/sandbox/testcases/1]] and its output seems to be the same as before my edits (5 errors reported). The output of the testcase 2 and 3 is also the same as before. However, I've made a very basic test page for my changes at [[User:Janhrach/sandbox]]. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 06:11, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:::[[User:Janhrach/sandbox]] proves the point that I made below; the {{tlx|cite web}} template called from wd/sandbox is using {{para|authors}} so that thing in your sandbox will, if used in mainspace add the article to {{cl|CS1 maint: uses authors parameter}}. So, I '''oppose''' the proposed change.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:If I understand what it is that this change accomplishes, I think I'm opposed. At [[Special:Permalink/1142478456#L-69|line 69]] of Module:Wd/sandbox/i18n is this:
::<syntaxhighlight lang="lua">[aliasesP.authorNameString] = "authors", </syntaxhighlight>
:If I understand the purpose of that, it is supposed to assign whatever value wikidata has for P2093 to the {{tlx|cite web}} parameter {{para|authors}}. Use of that parameter is discouraged and it will (someday) go away. {{tlx|cite q}} assigns P2093 values to {{para|author}} as a fallback (if one is to believe the module documentation at [[Module:Cite_Q#L-245|line 245]]). Neither of these solutions is a good solution when P2093 lists more than one name. Because P50 can (and does) hold more than one name it seems to me that wikidata q values using P2093 should be fixed to use P50 and this module tweaked to support that. Assigning P2093 to {{para|authors}} seems to me a hack that will come round to bite someone later. Don't do that.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 18:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
::I have just noticed that P2093 is supposed to hold one author at once, and if there are more authors, the reference will have more P2093s. For example, see the items listed at the "Most recently created items" URL at [[d:Property talk:P2093]]. I suggest to use <code>author</code> (instead of <code>authors</code>) for holding P2093s. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 14:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Ok, so long as the value from each P2093 goes in a separate enumerated {{para|author<{{var|n}}>}} parameter.
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:::I have marked this edit request as {{para|answered|yes}}. When you have got working code that does not create broken cs1|2 templates, feel free to set {{para|answered|no}}.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
=== Template-protected edit request on 4 March 2023 ===
{{edit template-protected|Module:Wd|Module:Wd/i18n|answered=yes}}
Please copy the contents of the revision 1142767581 of [[Module:wd/sandbox/i18n]] into [[Module:wd/i18n]] and the contents of the revision 1142771233 of [[Module:wd/sandbox]] into [[Module:wd]].
I've implemented the handling of P50 and P2093. In my implementation, each P50 and P2093 has its <code>authorN</code> parameter, with (template) parameters for P50 having lower <code>N</code> than parameters for P2093. For compatibility reasons, I have retained code that would handle multiple properties other than P50 and P2093. <s>I've also tweaked the fallback display of citations (used when a citation has parameters not supported by Cite web or when it doesn't include title or URL). The authors from P2093 are now displayed properly and the author separator was changed from " & " to "; ". The parts of the citation are now separated by ". ", not by "; ".</s> For output examples, see [[User:Janhrach/sandbox]].
[[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 09:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
'''Edit:''' see the comment from March 11.
:[[Special:Permalink/1142659125#cite_note-wikidata-45b28f9ca74a90a4f01d5dd643c79201de7817b8-v5-2|This cite]] seems to be more-or-less correct; [[Special:Permalink/1142659125#cite_note-wikidata-440dd35a0625814a5114a133ac12478c83252b47-v5-3|this cite]] does not. It appears that for some reason you are inventing your own citation style which would be ok if it were the only style to be used in articles that use this module. Alas, editors like citation consistency. I'm guessing that the reason for this different style is to prevent the embedded {{tlx|cite web}} template from emitting an error when wikidata does not have a title for the citation. Titles are required so when {{tld|cite web}} emits a missing title error, that is a good thing, because someone can go to wikidata and fix it (P1476). I'm inclined to oppose because of the non-standard citation style.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
::I did "invent" a new citation style (which is a slight modification of the previous one), but I did not come up with the idea of a fallback mode. See the updated version of [[User:Janhrach/sandbox|my sandbox]] for the original behavior of the module. So, is your opinion to remove the fallback mode and issue an error instead, or is it to keep the fallback mode and to issue an error only if the title is missing? [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 16:21, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
:::I would get rid of the fallback format as it exists now. If that is not possible, at the very least, the fallback format should look (to the reader) just like a cs1|2 template rendering. Maybe fallback format can use {{tlx|citation}} with {{para|mode|cs1}}:
::::<code><nowiki>{{citation |mode=cs1 |author1=John Doe |author2=Jane Doe |url=https://example.org |date=2000}}</nowiki></code>
:::::{{citation |mode=cs1 |author1=John Doe |author2=Jane Doe |url=https://example.org |date=2000}}
:::This looks much the same as the {{tlx|cite web}} and {{tlx|cite q}} template renderings; sort of. In the event that there is no url but there is a title, {{tld|citation}} will treat the citation as a book cite:
::::<code><nowiki>{{citation |mode=cs1 |author1=John Doe |author2=Jane Doe |title=Title |date=2000}}</nowiki></code>
:::::{{citation |mode=cs1 |author1=John Doe |author2=Jane Doe |title=Title |date=2000}}
:::<s>One thing that should be done with this referencing stuff is to set {{para|id|<nowiki>[[WDQ (identifier)|Wikidata]]</nowiki> Q<{{var|number}}>}} so that editors know where to go to fix missing/broken url/title/whatever.</s> yeah, there is a pencil icon... forgot about that.
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:::I should say that while I have contributed to [[Module:Cite Q]], I am, in general, opposed to its use and, by extension, to this module because both create buggy, hard to fix citations.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) <s>17:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)</s> 17:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
::::What about citation properties/parameters in Wikidata unknown to {{tl|Citation}}? Should they be left undisplayed, should the template output an error, or should the current behavior (outputting them in the format <code>property: value.</code>) be retained? [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{tq|citation properties/parameters in Wikidata unknown to {{tl|Citation}}}} And what properties/parameters might those be?
:::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 18:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::I meant some miscellaneous data about the reference, but I had nothing specific in my mind. Anyway, such metadata would be irrelevant for the citation and should be removed, so the best solution would be to display an error if any similar situation occurs. In other words, forget about my question. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
{{od}}
Deactivating edit request as still pending discussion and not ready to be implemented. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 22:15, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
::::I've changed my opinion, I disagree with using {{tl|Citation}} as the fallback mode. In my opinion, there are two good options – the fallback mode would retained, but it would issue a warning; or the fallback mode would be removed and an error would be issued if the module is unable to produce a valid template. I think the fallback mode (if retained) should be only temporary, and in the case a citation triggering the fallback mode appears, the citation (or, in special cases, this module) should be modified to produce a valid template. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 08:51, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm reopening this edit request. The discussion above is not directly related to my proposed fix. I made minor changes to the fallback display of citations, which (the changes) are partly unrelated to the rest of the fix. If you dislike them, please replace the main module file with the sandbox revision 1142765292 (instead of 1142771233). The <s>below</s> above discussion is about completely changing the fallback display of citations (as the resulting citations are not formatted consistently with CS1/2), which is neither something I wanted to address in my fix, nor something I am experiened enough to do. Addressing the inconsistency of fallback mode-generated citations can (and, in my opinion, should) be done later by more experienced editors than me. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 14:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{to|Janhrach}} would be good if we could tuck this one in. I need you to '''link''' to precisely the sandbox versions for [[Module:Wd/sandbox]] and [[Module:Wd/i18n/sandbox]] that you want to implement. And I need you to reassure me that your edits have been tested and are ready to go live. Thank you''!'' '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. Ellsworth</span>]]''''' , [[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er there</sup>]] <small>11:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</small>
::{{reply to | User:Paine Ellsworth}} The links are [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1142771233] (sandbox) and [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1142767581] (sandbox/i18n). My edits have been tested, the results are in [[User:Janhrach/sandbox|my sandbox]]. Please note that the third reference in the sandbox is supposed to trigger the fallback mode of displaying references, it is not a bug.
::[[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 15:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Because the 'fallback' does not look like a cs1|2 template rendering, I stand by my previous comment: {{tq|I would get rid of the fallback format as it exists now. If that is not possible, at the very least, the fallback format should look (to the reader) just like a cs1|2 template rendering.}} Get rid of the fallback or fix it.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
::::{{ping | Trappist the monk}} I have removed the fallback mode, see [[User:Janhrach/sandbox|my sandbox]] for the output. One problem is that Wikidata doesn't seem to mandate any other reference parameters than URL. See the first error in [[Module:Wd/sandbox/testcases/1]]. The <code>sourced</code> command breaks, because one of the references triggers the (now inexistent) fallback mode, which can be considered a problem. Please let me know what you think. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::Emitting a Lua script error is clearly the wrong thing to do because it misleads the reader into thinking that the problem is in the Lua module when it is really in the wikidata:
::::::<strong class="error">Lua error in Module:Wd/sandbox at line 250: A reference contains malformed parameters.</strong>
:::::Why would you have the module emit an error message like that? Error message must be meaningful or at the very least link to documentation that explains the error message. Further, using {{tag|strong}} and a larger font size for error messages is a lot like SHOUTING; don't do that.
:::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::{{ping | Trappist the monk}} I have tweaked the output, please see my sandbox. Is it OK now? [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::The appearance is better but the message:
::::::::{{color|#d33|Error: Reference contains a combination of parameters incompatible with Cite Web and Cite Q templates.}}
:::::::is wholly untrue, isn't it? If I go to [[:d:Q112795079#P279]] and look in the reference I find {{property|P854}}, {{property|P2093}}, {{property|P50}}, & {{property|P577}}. All of these appear in [[:d:Q112795079#P31]] and all but P50 appear in [[:d:Q212885#P348]]. The references created for those latter two are apparently rendered by {{tlx|cite web}}. Clearly then, the 'parameters' in Q112795079#P279 are {{em|not}} {{color|#d33|... incompatible with Cite Web and Cite Q templates.}}
:::::::
:::::::Why is {{tq|the first error in [[Module:Wd/sandbox/testcases/1]]}} no longer broken? It is one of the two <code>Q55|P1081</code> tests (don't remember which). It showed the shouted error message but doesn't show the new error message. Should it?
:::::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 22:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
{{od}} {{ping | Trappist the monk}} In technical sense, the term "[incompatible] combination of parameters" includes the fact that the citation lacks the needed parameters. Since it will be probably unclear what it means, it can be replaced with something like: "Error: Unable to display the reference properly. See the documentation for details." The documentation would include something like this (under the subtitle of the error): "The Wikidata reference doesn't contain the minimal set of parameters (title and reference URL for Cite web, "stated in" for Cite Q) or has a set of parameters incompatible with both Cite web and Cite Q". As for the error that disappeared, the reason for its disappearance is that the new error message is returned from the ''getReference'' function to avoid terminating the whole script, as calling ''error()'' did. The "sourced" command counts error-returning references as valid, and I don't think it's a problem – there is no policy that only statements with references renderable with Cite web/Cite Q are considered ''sourced''. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 14:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
:Most editors at en.wikipedia are not technical. Error messages or the explanatory text {{em|linked}} from the error message must be written so that any editor can learn what is wrong and how to fix it. 'Technical' answers have no place in error messaging unless the 'fix' is only intended to be fixed by technical editors.
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:As an example of poor documentation, look at {{slink|Template:Cite_Q|Module:Wd}}. That section is the only place where {{property|P248}} is mentioned. As it turns out, the mention is incorrect; the citation is rendered by {{tlx|cite web}}, not by {{tlx|cite q}}. I went looking because {{para|stated in}} is not a {{tld|cite q}} parameter just as {{para|reference url}} is not a {{tld|cite web}} parameter.
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:Just because I was curious, I switched the example template at {{tld|cite q}} to use the ~/sandbox:
::<code><nowiki>{{Wikidata/sandbox|references|raw|Q2978|P2046}}</nowiki></code>
:::{{Wikidata/sandbox|references|raw|Q2978|P2046}}
:Really? Should that error message be there? The {{tld|cite web}} rendering produced by the live version of {{tlx|Wikidata}} is exactly the same as the reference produced by ~/sandbox – neither are 'good' citations but that is one of the huge failings of {{tld|cite q}}.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 22:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping | Trappist the monk}} The example from the Cite Q documentation is wrong because new claims (about the area of Regensburg) have been added since the example was written. Now (as opposed to the time the example was written), there are '''2''' references supporting the newest claim (as opposed to the one that was intended to appear in the example), but they aren't enclosed in ''ref'' tags because of the ''raw'' command, so on the first look, they look like one citation. None of the references uses ''stated in'', so they can't be rendered using Cite Q. If you don't understand me, just look at [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2978#P2046]. On the "80.85 square kilometers" claim (which is inadvertently used on the documentation page), the first reference lacks a title, so it causes the error. The second reference is just a normal URL reference. The "80.81 square kilometers" claim is probably the one intended to appear in the example in the Cite Q documentation.
::As for the inexistent <code>|reference url</code> parameter, it isn't used because the <code>reference URL</code> Wikidata property is mapped to the <code>url</code> parameter of Cite web in [[Module:wd/i18n]]. The <code>stated in</code> property is mapped to the first (unnamed) parameter of Cite Q.
::As for the new error message suggested in my last comment, is something wrong with it? Is it still too technical? [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 14:49, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
:::I wasn't trying to get you to justify or explain the poor documentation at {{tlx|cite q}}. I used it as an example of what {{em|not}} to do. Apparently I failed to communicate – a personal failing that has oft been commented on at en.wikipedia.
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:::{{color|#d33|Error: Unable to display the reference properly. See the documentation for details.}} What 'documentation' where? {{em|Link}} to it.
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:::{{tq|The Wikidata reference doesn't contain the minimal set of parameters (title and reference URL for Cite web, "stated in" for Cite Q) or has a set of parameters incompatible with both Cite web and Cite Q"}} A point I was trying to get across is that {{tlx|cite web}} does not have a parameter called {{para|reference URL}} and {{tld|cite q}} does not have a parameter called {{para|stated in}}. I don't know that it is necessary to distinguish between {{tld|cite web}} and {{tld|cite q}}. Perhaps you should avoid the word 'parameters' because wikidata doesn't have parameters. The {{em|linked}} help text should explain what properties are required and how to decide whether to use {{property|P248}} or to use {{property|P854}} and {{property|P1476}}.
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:::The {{em|linked}} help text should also describe how to find the reference that needs fixing. The {{tld|cite q}} documentation is an example worth noting. Wikidata change at the whim of wikidata editors who aren't necessarily wikipedia editors so error messages will pop up unexpectedly on en.wiki articles. Editors at en.wiki won't know why the error messages have suddenly appeared and don't know how and where to fix them. It is important that non-technical and/or novice en.wiki editors be told where to find the source of the error and be given instruction on how to fix that error.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 16:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you for correcting my misunderstandings. In the next few days, when I'll have time, I'll start working on a concrete text for the module documentation. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:40, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Trappist the monk}} I've written a new section for the module documentation and listed some minor changes [[User:Janhrach/new_wd_documentation|here]]. Can you please review it? While I was writing the documentation, I've noticed a potential bug in my proposed changes to the code of the module, but I haven't had time to fix it yet. And there is also another problem – there is a pending edit request at the bottom of this talk page. Until it is either accepted or denied, I can't make a final version of the (whole) code of the module implementing my proposed changes. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:41, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
::::::From your documentation: {{tq|or has properties not in the table above, the following error is returned ...}} Surely you don't actually mean that do you? Are you suggesting that a url with 'stated in' is an error condition? Other than that, I like it. I wonder if the two tables might be somehow combined for the avoidance of confusion ...
::::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
{{od}} I have clarified the sentence you have mentioned. In the sentence I originally assumed it is clear that the module attempts to use Cite Q only after using Cite web has failed, but now I agree with you that the original sentence needed to be clarified. As for the tables, I don't think it's a good idea to merge them, because they describe different citation renderings which shouldn't be confused. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:03, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Trappist the monk}} I've fixed the bug I've mentioned, so the code in the sandbox is now ready to be copied into the main module file. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 13:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
::{{ping|Trappist the monk}} The wording of my previous message is probably not clear. Just to clarify: Please copy [[Module:wd/sandbox]] and [[Module:wd/sandbox/i18n]] to [[Module:wd]] and [[Module:wd/i18n]], respectively. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
:::I came here to object to your use of {{para|authors}} in the generated citations. I do not know this module nor do I know and understand Wikidata. As such, I am not qualified to determine if your suggested changes are correct and harmless. You should reactivate the edit request to see if you can attract an editor who is qualified. Have you asked the module's primary author Editor [[User:Thayts|Thayts]]?
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 16:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
::::OK, so I will make another edit request as soon as I will have time for it. By the way, thank you for all your advice. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 13:59, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
=== Template-protected edit request on 3 May 2023 ===
{{edit template-protected|Module:Wd|Module:Wd/i18n|answered=yes}}
Please copy the revision 1150716473 of [[Module:wd/sandbox]] to [[Module:wd]] and the revision 1150510037 of [[Module:wd/sandbox/i18n]] to [[Module:wd/i18n]].
I've made several changes to processing of citations. For the explanation, see the text under the previous edit request template, but note that I've <u>additionally</u> removed the fallback mode of processing citations, because Trappist the monk convinced me that I shouldn't retain it. (See the above discussion.) I have also listed proposed changes to the module documentation at [[User:Janhrach/new_wd_documentation]]. It would be helpful if {{mention|Thayts|p=}} looked at my proposed changes to the module. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 17:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
: {{done}} [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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