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::@[[User:Rjjiii|Rjjiii]], it [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox_3&diff=prev&oldid=1177561349 looks like] it is possible to remove and change list-defined references (at least when the references tag is being used directly; I didn't test it against the more common template). I don't see a way to add new ones; the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox_3&diff=prev&oldid=1177561532 normal method adds it inline].
::Also, @[[User:ESanders (WMF)|ESanders (WMF)]]: Please open my sandbox in the visual editor and how the references list in the first section misbehaves. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 04:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the reply. After discussing this here and there,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/extending_references#Cart_before_the_horse_(list-defined_references)] I took some time to experiment and fixed up the [[police jury]] article, which previously used a single bare URL for a single paragraph.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Police_jury&oldid=1104414175] I used only list-defined references and no templates in the body test to make a functional test page. I believe you're correct about there being no way to add a list-defined reference from the visual editor; there also does not seem to be a way to delete them (yet). I've held off updating any documentation as they still don't fully work in the visual editor. [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii#top|talk]]) 05:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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