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*:I notice you didn't even mention the two-page magazine article entirely about the 1988 cover image. Cherry-picking much? Another newly added reference, Chen, Paul, & O'Keefe, is also almost entirely about the content of this journal (as a test case for the citation analysis proposed by the authors). Also, learn to count. Ruller is four sentences long, but one of those sentences is quite long (as long as the other three put together). —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 00:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
*::You're right, Ruller 1993 is 4 sentences, not 3. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the overall length of the coverage (even if one of the sentences is quite long), and so it doesn't change my opinion about Ruller 1993 not providing SIGCOV. <p>I can't access the 1989 Holosphere article, but based on your description of it, what it's cited for in the Wikipedia article, and a Google snippet, it appears to be an article about a hologram called "The Tin Toy" that appeared on the cover of IEEE CG&A, but not about CG&A itself. If the Holosphere article has SIGCOV -- like more than 4 sentences (however long) or one paragraph -- about CG&A itself (and not the hologram on the cover), maybe you can paste some excerpts here and we can take a look at it. If it's SIGCOV about CG&A, it would count towards GNG and we'd be halfway there. <p>[https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/859766 Chen 2000], a conference paper published by IEEE, is probably not an independent source and so not GNG, but also doesn't have SIGCOV, as all it seems to say about CG&A is {{tqq|IEEE CG&A was launched in 1981 ... IEEE CG&A as a prestigious journal reflects significant aspects of computer graphics. Of course, it is not the only journal in the field. There are a vast amount of publications in the literature on this subject.}} and the rest is about a dataset of IEEE CG&A articles the author used to create an author co-citation map as an example of ___domain visualization (if I understood the paper correctly, which I probably didn't). [[User:Levivich|Levivich]] ([[User talk:Levivich|talk]]) 02:05, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
*:I looked at [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12650-018-0483-5 Nakazawa], too. It's another paper that uses CG&A articles ''as a data set for a study''. It's not about CG&A, the publication, at all. [[User:Levivich|Levivich]] ([[User talk:Levivich|talk]]) 03:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. {{tq|"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content}}. I see sigcov of the publication in the Chen, Paul & O'Keefe piece. Similarly, I see sigcov Nakazawa, Itoh & Saito. I'm unable to read the Holosphere piece, but coverage of a cover of a publication is coverage of the publication. By the above definition of sigcov, the 4 sentences in Ruller provide sigcov that can be summarized. The 2 sentences in Salomon provide sigcov that can be summarized.
:Suffice it to say, we have enough here to write a start class article about this subject by summarizing secondary sources, augmented with verifiable information from primary sources, and without original research. If we're truly concerned this magazine is being promoted here, we could remove any non-independent primary sourced claims and still be left with an article. —[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''χ'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 03:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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