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* 5 if {{para|TF_HEADER}} is not defined (i.e. any banner with 5 or more task forces will collapse by default, to take up less space on the page)
The default can be changed with the {{para|TF_COLLAPSE}} parameter — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
== Auto for unassessed articles ==
auto=yes does not work for talk pages which do not have class/importance. e.g. [[Talk:Benzoate degradation via hydroxylation]]. I do not know if it worked with the old version of WPBannerMeta. [[User:Christian75|Christian75]] ([[User talk:Christian75|talk]]) 00:44, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Christian75}} No, it did not. Its purpose was purely to show that the {{para|class}} parameter had been filled in [[Wikipedia:Types of bots#WikiProject tagging and auto-assessment bots|automatically by a bot]]. There were three ways that {{para|class}} could be filled in: (i) based on the length of the article (very short articles would be given {{para|class|stub}}), in which case you got {{para|auto|length}}; (ii) by copying the value for {{para|class}} from another WikiProject banner on the same page, in which case you got {{para|auto|inherit}} - clearly if there were two or more with ratings, they would need to be the same rating otherwise the bot wouldn't do anything; (iii) if the article uses a [[Wikipedia:Stub|stub template]], in which case you got {{para|auto|yes}} (or {{para|auto|stub}}) and also {{para|class|stub}}.
:Hence, if the WikiProject did not recognise {{para|class}}, it was pointless for it to recognise {{para|auto}}. Importance had nothing to do with it. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 10:43, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:: But the recent bot which tagged a lot of pages automatically added auto=yes. Just like the example i gave where WP Science should be removed. IMHO all talk pages with auto=yes (or similar) should be checked and therefore, should be in a auto-category [[User:Christian75|Christian75]] ([[User talk:Christian75|talk]]) 12:16, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::The bot concerned is {{user|Qwerfjkl (bot)}}, which is very buggy - see the numerous threads at [[User talk:Qwerfjkl]] and its archives, going back ''months'', e.g. [[User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 32#auto]]. Your example edit is dated 1 July 2023 - do you have any recent examples? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 15:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::Strange. So adding class=something to a talk page which have auto=yes - will also make the article be in the Automatically assessed Chemistry articles (example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alsever%27s_solution&diff=prev&oldid=1176509153]) . I suggest adding all articles with auto to the automatically assessed categories and not just after they have been tagged with class. [[User:Christian75|Christian75]] ([[User talk:Christian75|talk]]) 12:23, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{para|auto|inherit}} or {{para|auto|length}} will work for any class (as long as the article has been assessed otherwise it would make no sense!) And {{para|auto|stub}} only works when {{para|class|stub}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 16:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]], I wouldn't say it's very buggy - after all, that's what I coded it to do. There were a few problems when running it (mostly the ORES thing which is only tagentially related to this). Anyway, I switched to using an invisible comment pretty much because of this issue. I have no problem going over previous edits and fixing them, I just figured that it wasn't a huge issue.<br/>There won't be any recent edits, because the bot task finished some time ago.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1695656742033:Module_talkFTTCLNWikiProject_banner" class="FTTCmt"> — [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 15:45, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</span>
== [[Template:WikiProject Mammals/Bats Task Force]] ==
Will you just look at the horrendous code on this template? I think someone (or a bot) needs to go around and convert all the unnamed parameters to the standard named parameters "class", "importance" and "photo" — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
:[[:Category:Bats articles using unnamed parameters]] - see what turns up — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
::I did a null edit on every page transcluding [[:Template:WikiProject Mammals/Bats Task Force]] (just over 2,000 pages), so anything that could have ended up in the category should be there now. The category is empty. It should be safe to remove the excess code. You could leave the tracking category code in for a while if you are not confident in my work. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 18:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
:::Thank you! Of course I am confident in your work ... — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 19:30, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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