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:::His "ID" belief is different from others. Technically speaking, all religious (particularly Abrahamic faiths) believe in an "Intelligent Designer", even theistic evolutionists like [[Theodosius Dobzhansky|Dobzhansky]], [[Ronald Fisher|Fisher]], [[Simon Conway Morris|Simon Morris]], [[Francis Collins]], [[Francisco J. Ayala|Francisco Ayala]], etc. The only thing common here is the name, but what each label means is different. The traditional "ID" belief is only considered problematic because of it's rejection of evolution and denial of natural causes. There's nothing wrong with believing that the "Intelligent Designer" designs through the natural process of evolution as a mechanic. One can take the designer as the first cause and natural causes as [[Secondary causation|secondary]]. [[User:Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar|Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar]] ([[User talk:Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar|talk]]) 18:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Also, you're argument is an example of [[genetic fallacy]]. [[User:Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar|Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar]] ([[User talk:Asaduzzaman Khan Shahriar|talk]]) 18:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tq|different from others}} - All beliefs are different from all other beliefs; Plantinga is not special in that regard.
::::{{tq|Technically speaking}} - Wikipedia does not speak that, unless reliable sources already did it before. Antievolutionists have always tried to include non-antievolutionists into their groups; your rhetorics is not new.
::::{{tq|The traditional "ID" belief is only considered problematic because}} - Wrong. It is considered problematic because it uses bad reasoning.
::::{{tq|an example of genetic fallacy}} There is no trace of that fallacy here. --[[User:Hob Gadling|Hob Gadling]] ([[User talk:Hob Gadling|talk]]) 20:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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