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:{{re|Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d}} {{sent}} via email. [[User:DanCherek|DanCherek]] ([[User talk:DanCherek|talk]]) 22:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:DanCherek|DanCherek]] Thanks for the swift reply. {{tl|resolved}} [[User:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|Dr. Swag Lord]] ([[User talk:Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d|talk]]) 22:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

== Sources about Anton Çelebi ==

In 12 July 2023 there was a conference ([https://historiansnet.com/program-and-abstracts/]) in [[Middle East Technical University|METU]], Turkey, whose Session 3 was dedicated to Anton Çelebi. 4 researchers (Mehmet Kuru, Gamze Yavuzer, Özden Mercan and Christopher Whitehead) presented something. Links give out their papers ([https://historiansnet.com/program-and-abstracts/#:~:text=%5BHall%20D%5D%20Session,State%20(1646%E2%80%9356)]), but only 1 page each:

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* Mehmet Kuru: The Trans-Mediterranean Family of Hasan Agha and Anton Çelebi

* Gamze Yavuzer: Who is the Lawful Heir?: Anton Çelebi’s Trans-imperial Inheritance Case between Florence and Istanbul

* Özden Mercan: A Man of Two Worlds: Anton Çelebi’s Extraordinary Life in Livorno

* Christopher Whitehead: The Career of Customs Officer Hasan Agha as a Financier for the Ottoman State (1646–56)

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Is it possible to find the full contents of these papers?

And also I'm interested in this book — [https://books.google.com/books?id=9zVpAAAAMAAJ Palais de Hollande in Istanbul: The Embassy and Envoys of the Netherlands Since 1612].

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For [[Anton Çelebi]]

With respect, [[User:Smpad|Smpad]] ([[User talk:Smpad|talk]]) 22:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

:For the conference talks, I'm not sure there's anything published beyond the one-page abstracts for the individual talks and the session. You could try contacting the authors; you can find contact info at the following pages:

:* Mehmet Kuru:

:** https://hist.sabanciuniv.edu/en/faculty/detail/2781 (institution stated in [https://historiansnet.com/scientific-committee/] and [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmy-mesa.org%2Fdirectory%2Fview%2Fmembers%2FeyJpdiI6IkFJVWZKeHliSlNzSHRmY1dqVEdmQkE9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoiMmtFRHdrV0RZeEVJc2xndnN5TTQyUT09IiwibWFjIjoiNjY0YmQ2MWNlODM4ZDMzY2FiY2Q5NTVmYzRmZWE1ZjM1MjBlZjIyZTM3ZGNhYTcyZjI3OWM3NDFlN2FhMzgzNCIsInRhZyI6IiJ9])

:** ([https://history.princeton.edu/maow-abstracts#anchor_Mehmet%20Kuru Kuru also presented the same talk title and abstract at the 4th annual Mid-Atlantic Ottomanist Workshop])

:* Gamze Yavuzer:

:** https://research-portal.st-andrews.ac.uk/en/persons/gamze-yavuzer-eper (institution stated in [https://historiansnet.com/executive-committee/])

:** (I also found that Yavuzer recently got a PhD from the university I'm studying at, so let me know if you think it'd be better for me to contact Yavuzer)

:* Özden Mercan:

:** https://history.hacettepe.edu.tr/en/menu/faculty_members-123 (institution stated in [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmy-mesa.org%2Fdirectory%2Fview%2Fmembers%2FeyJpdiI6ImZtVGYrSCtLS2lQM3JYNGU1a0JLVVE9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoiN1hJTzdjOEl1aVVLSlJQTytnOHVsQT09IiwibWFjIjoiYWQ4OWNiN2IxMjRkYTQ4MmM4MTc2MTc5OTZmOTIwYTZlZWUyMmNlYTFjOWMyZDlhYzI0NTc2NTY2ZDQ0MzgyMCIsInRhZyI6IiJ9])

:** https://www-tandfonline-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/doi/full/10.1080/09518967.2020.1820696 (the "Notes on contributor" match the profile on Hacettepe University's website)

:* Christopher Whitehead:

:** https://history.osu.edu/people/whitehead.173 (institution stated in [https://historiansnet.com/executive-committee/] and [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmy-mesa.org%2Fdirectory%2Fview%2Fmembers%2FeyJpdiI6IlgyanVQWFQ1WldqZjdNbWtXNmR1Q3c9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoiY09rUGdSbm5wUHZMU2g0Y1FNRWNQUT09IiwibWFjIjoiZjBkODExNmM5Mjg1MWY2ODZkYTkwY2FmYThjZWY4MjNiYTdhY2RlODIwYTljZTJiMTM1Y2U4MmJkYWNhZjE0YyIsInRhZyI6IiJ9])

:(I also found that all of them presented at Turkologentag 2023 Vienna: [https://hub.uoa.gr/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Turkologentag-2023-program_2023-07-04_14-50-33-11.pdf], [https://turkologentag2023.univie.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/k_turkologentag2023/Turkologentag-2023-Programme_18.09.23.pdf])

:[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 15:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

::[[User:Sollyucko|Sollyucko]], colleague, thank you very much. Please, may I ask you to contact Ms. Gamze Yavuzer? With respect, colleague. [[User:Smpad|Smpad]] ([[User talk:Smpad|talk]]) 16:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

:::Alright, I've emailed Dr. Yavuzer's St. Andrew's email address from my university email address. I'll let you know if and when I get a reply.

:::[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 16:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

::::Hello, [[User:Sollyucko|colleague]]. Have you been given an answer? With respect, [[User:Smpad|Smpad]] ([[User talk:Smpad|talk]]) 11:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Smpad}} Here are the key parts of the emails so far:

:::::{{blockquote |text=I'm looking for information about Anton Çelebi, and found your talk titled "Who is the Lawful Heir?: Anton Çelebi’s Trans-imperial Inheritance Case between Florence and Istanbul" that you presented at METU and Turkologentag in 2023. Beyond your abstract for that talk (https://historiansnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Gamze-Yavuzer-Anton.pdf), are you able and willing to share any materials you presented, or any additional information you know about Anton Çelebi? |source=me, 5 days ago}}

:::::{{blockquote |text=May I ask what your work is on Anton, and what exactly do you need for your research? |source=Dr. Gamze Yavuzer, yesterday}}

:::::{{blockquote |text=<p>In this case, I'm asking on behalf of another user on Wikipedia, who says they're planning to use it as a source to improve the Wikipedia article about Anton Çelebi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_%C3%87elebi). Therefore, if you'd be willing to help with that, I'd appreciate any information or sources about any notable details or events that aren't yet mentioned in the article. If you're not interested in supporting this, that's fine, just please let me know.</p><p>If possible, I'd like to be able to cite a published/accessible source that directly states each fact mentioned in the article, so that future readers can verify where the information came from. As long as the sources are available somewhere that can be publicly accessed (needing to pay is okay), such as being available from a public library, a public or subscription website or database, a publisher or retailer or reseller, or any other similar ___location, that's enough; being formally published by a publisher isn't the only option. Sources can be written documents, audio or video recordings, or any other kind of media.</p><p>Are you able and willing to provide copies of or citations to any sources written by you or anyone else that could help with this?</p> |source=me, yesterday}}

:::::I'm now waiting for a reply to this, which I expect will take a few days.

:::::[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 15:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|Smpad}} I've received the following reply:

::::::{{blockquote |text=I've checked the existing Wikipedia page on Anton Chelebi and it seems that the author of the page is already aware of the project on Anton and his brother Hasan. I worked on this project last year and now the PI of this project is working on a book on these brothers. When the book is published, there will be more information to add. For now, however, I cannot add anything more than what is already available on the project's website. |source=Dr. Gamze Yavuzer}}

::::::[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 14:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::::Thank you very much, [[User:Sollyucko|colleague]]! With respect, [[User:Smpad|Smpad]] ([[User talk:Smpad|talk]]) 23:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)