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:::::New code deployed, so hopefully that reduces the lag on these pages — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:06, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks, stuff's looking ''much'' better now (not even 2s on the misconceptions page compared to over 6s before the updates). [[User:Aidan9382|Aidan9382]] <sub>([[User talk:Aidan9382|talk]])</sub> 21:28, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
== [[Template:Etymology section]] ==
Template uses custom code to implement a custom quality rating, but it does not do it in the usual way with a custom mask. I'm not sure what to do with this template so dropping it here in case others have an idea. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 23:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Kanashimi|Kanashimi]], @[[User:Qwerfjkl|Qwerfjkl]]: please could you not remove any class parameter from this template until we figure out the best way to code it? It is using a custom mask, but not in the usual way. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:MSGJ|Martin]], I've stopped my bot, it's run on the vast majority of pages.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1709413119615:Module_talkFTTCLNWikiProject_banner" class="FTTCmt"> — [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 20:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::Okay, wow. I didn't realise you had already finished! — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
::::[[User:MSGJ|Martin]], yes, we've totally emptied the main two categories (in the main talk namepace). Around 4-5 million pages, I think.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1709413295958:Module_talkFTTCLNWikiProject_banner" class="FTTCmt"> — [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 21:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
::::Yes, we've already processed a round of major categories. But I'm still on the task of removing obsolete parameters. I suggest adding {{tl|Etymology section}} to [[:Category:WikiProjects using a non-standard quality scale]] first. [[User:Kanashimi|Kanashimi]] ([[User talk:Kanashimi|talk]]) 22:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
:How is that template not appearing in [[:Category:WikiProject banners with non-standard names]]? [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 13:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::The current logic is <code>(args.PROJECT_NAME=='WikiProject '..project or not args.PROJECT_NAME) and current_page.rootPageTitle.prefixedText~='Template:WikiProject ' .. project</code> In this case the project name is not WikiProject PROJECT and it is not undefined — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Maybe adjust this so we check either if {{para|PROJECT_NAME}} is equal to "WikiProject {{var|project}}" OR the template name does not start with "WikiProject"? Since we standardized on "WikiProject {{var|project}}" for these templates, there really shouldn't be many with non-standard valid names I think, unless I missed something. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 15:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::::This banner isn't for a WikiProject. Perhaps that issue should be corrected instead? [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 17:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Isn't it part of linguistics project? — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 19:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::A task force of that project, yes. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 22:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I usually nominate task force banners to merge with their project banner but because this had manual code in it I left it alone for now as I didn't investigate what that code does and if indeed it needs manual code. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 06:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I think I'll start by removing the custom code and attempting to use the standard methods. If that works then we can look at the next step — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 18:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Conclusion: it is easy to convert it, but some categories would need to be renamed. Test cases at [[Template:Etymology section/testcases]]. I have also dropped a note on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics]]. Also, there are only {{PAGESINCAT:Etymology Task Force etymologies}} pages using this template so it was never really adopted on any scale — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 18:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Maybe after merging with {{tl|WikiProject Linguistics}}, the syntax can be changed to something similar to this:
::::::::::* {{tlx|WikiProject Linguistics|etymology{{=}}yes|etymology-section{{=}}good}}
::::::::::* {{tlx|WikiProject Linguistics|etymology{{=}}yes|etymology-section{{=}}incomplete}}
::::::::::* {{tlx|WikiProject Linguistics|etymology{{=}}yes|etymology-section{{=}}missing}}
::::::::::* {{tlx|WikiProject Linguistics|etymology{{=}}yes|etymology-section{{=}}unassessed}}
::::::::::so instead of a new set of unique classes, it will just be another parameter that will trigger the placement in the category. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 10:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Sounds like a good plan. I also think we could rename [[:Category:Articles with mid-importance etymologies]] to [[:Category:Mid-importance etymology articles]] or similar — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::I feel like those are just other ways to grade each article with a class, which we have examples of for task forces. Good would put it in B, incomplete C or start, unassessed is missing a grade, and missing is probably equivalent to unassessed ultimately... [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 17:17, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::That's also a good point. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 07:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Missing etymology might just be like {{para|needs-infobox}} I guess, but the rest all have direct analogs to our rating system. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Due to the lack of any response at the project talk page, it seems no one is interested in this template, so I have just removed the non-standard assessments altogether. If this gets reverted then we can look at methods to preserve the assessments in a more standard way — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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