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:DPRK is certainly on par with the rest of the "least developed" world, in both information and living conditions. works 4 me <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer-mcdonell|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer-mcdonell|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 03:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

::{{+1}} — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[Non nobis solum]]. </small> ♠ 04:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

== In the news ==

Is it the same (as in, same points) if an article is accepted for Recent Deaths, or for a proper blurb? [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 02:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

:i'm personally fine with keeping the [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#In_the_news|WikiCup standards]] where both recent deaths and blurbs count for the same amount, since that's really impossible to control on the nominator's end. ITN has [[WP:ITNCRIT|quality requirements]] for displaying on the main page, which is ultimately what we're looking at for scoring. <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 02:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

== More feedback/questions ==

A few new thoughts, and revisiting a few that might need more discussion:

* The submissions page still needs to be figured out.

* The number of points for each type of submission hasn't been changed. Are we going with the same scores and categories as WikiCup, like 5 or 10 for DYK, 12 for ITN, etc?

* Has any thought been given to the total number of judges? There are currently two, are there plans to recruit a third (or even a fourth)?

* "Most submissions for a single country" should be reworded. Right now it could be read as "a barnstar is given to the one person who has the most submissions for a single country" or "one barnstar is given out per country based on who did the most in each country". The latter would be kind of insane.

* The "higher level" articles are such a narrow list of difficult articles that it might be worth expanding it or reworking the idea.

* Three months is a relatively short period of time for some of the review processes, especially GAN. We might consider a "soft launch" for June in which competitors are encouraged to start working on articles so they're ready to start nominating in July or can get their DYKs nominated in late June if we're going with DYK submissions. The WikiCup has Round 1 as a low-barrier warm up, but DCWC doesn't have that luxury.

* There was talk of a prominently displayed "needs review" panel like [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews needed]] to help noms get reviewed more quickly and to help reviewers find qualifying noms. We should figure out what that will look like.

[[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#324717">The</span><span style="color:#45631f">big</span><span style="color:#547826">ugly</span><span style="color:#68942f">alien</span>]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:sienna">talk</span>]]) 06:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:Re #3, the plan was to have a third more experienced judge (cf. [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)/Archive_56#The_Developing_Countries_WikiContest|the VPI thread]], which was archived without comment), but no one has stepped forward thus far. <small>and re #4, it should be the latter, so I can just farm random Pacific islands...{{jokes}}</small> [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#00008B;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]) 06:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

::AFAIK #4 is the latter, unless {{u|sawyer-mcdonell}} disagrees. I'd appreciate if you could expand a bit on your feedback for #5, {{u|Thebiguglyalien}}. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 18:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:::{{u|sawyer777|fix failed ping}} [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#483D8B;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#483D8B;">talk</span>]]) 18:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:::The bonus points system at [[Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring#From relation to developing countries]] assumes that several people will be working on these types of articles, but I don't believe there are going to be any meaningful contributions there. I think that the scope of those bonuses should be expanded in some way if it's going to be kept, though I don't have a proposal for what exactly it would look like. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#324717">The</span><span style="color:#45631f">big</span><span style="color:#547826">ugly</span><span style="color:#68942f">alien</span>]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:sienna">talk</span>]]) 21:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:::i actually was thinking the former, as that is more practical & matches with the award for the person who covers the most countries <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 21:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

::::i welcome a rewording although i'm not sure exactly what to change the wording to <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 21:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

*FWIW, re. point 3 I think it should be the former. [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#00008B;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]) 22:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

*:(i assume you mean #4?) <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 22:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

*::<small>Yes. Don't edit Wikipedia while eating pasta... [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#2F4F4F;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#2F4F4F;">talk</span>]]) 23:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</small>

:Should we make a subpage for the submissions of everyone? — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 20:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

::yes - i think we can have it all on one subpage, much like a backlog drive <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 20:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

:::{{+1}} [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#000080;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#000080;">talk</span>]]) 20:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

::::Created [[Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Submissions]], though we may want to rename it. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 22:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

:::::I think it's a good idea to have a leaderboard-style table, but we also need a page with sections for each user where they can list their submissions. I'm thinking something like the [[Wikipedia:Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/March 2024#Participants and reviews tracker|GAN backlog drive]]. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|TechnoSquirrel69]]</span> ([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|sigh]]) 22:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

::::::as of how it's designed right now, this page does both - i would be amiable to splitting it into two pages though <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 22:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

:"Three months is a relatively short period of time for some of the review processes, especially GAN". There are points for GA, but also for GA reviews, which should speed up the process. [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 02:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)