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:::@[[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]]: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FhYtmR9x17Vvz3tsr6tsfQCao-MPTky5/view?usp=sharing And here] is the review by Gilbert. – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 21:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

::::@[[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] Thank you! [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|talk]]) 10:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

== Multiple fossil cat-related requests ==

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These are a series of scientific articles I am unable to access online. I have checked the Wikipedia Library as well as Google Scholar. Most of these are unlikely to be in English. Two of them (the ones by Bakr) I suspect are rare outside of Pakistan.

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# {{ok}} <s>{{cite journal |ref=none |last=Pons-Moyà |first=Joan |date=1987 |title=Fortunictis nov. gen. acerensis nov. sp. nuevo Metailurini (Mammalia, Carnivora) del Mioceno superior de la Península Ibérica |trans-title=Fortunictis nov. gen. acerensis nov. sp. new Metailurini (Mammalia, Carnivora) from the Upper Miocene of the Iberian Peninsula. |url= |language=Spanish |journal=Paleontologia i evolució |volume= |issue=21 |pages=63–68 |doi= |s2cid=133680588}}</s>

# {{ok}} <s>{{cite journal |ref=none|last1=Crusafont-Pairo|first1=M.|last2=Aguirre|first2=E.|year=1972|title=''Stenailurus'', Félidé nouveau du Turolien d'Éspagne| language=French |trans-title=''Stenailurus'', A New Felid of the Turolian of Spain |journal=Annales de Paléontologie |volume=58 |issue=2 |pages=211–223}}</s>

#{{ok}} <s>{{Cite journal |ref=none |last1=Schmidt-Kittler |first1=Norbert |title=Raubtiere aus dem Jungtertiär Kleinasiens |trans-title=Carnivores from the Late Tertiary of Asia Minor |language=German |journal=Palaeontographica Abteilung A |volume=155 |date=1976 |pages=1–131 |url=https://www.schweizerbart.de/papers/pala/detail/A155/70908}}</s>

#{{ok}} <s>{{Cite journal |ref=none |last=Bakr |first=A. |date=1969 |title=A new genus of large cat from Upper Siwaliks |journal=Pakistan Journal of Zoology |volume=1|issue=2|pages=135–140}}</s>

#{{Cite journal |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Bakr |first=A. |year=1986 |title=On a collection of Siwalik Carnivora |journal=Biological Society of Pakistan |volume=Monograph 11 |pages=1–64 |doi= }}

#{{ok}} <s>{{cite journal |ref=none |last=von Koenigswald |first=G. H. R. |date=1934 |title=Zur Stratigraphie des javanischen Pleistocan |trans-title=On the stratigraphy of the Javanese Pleistocene |language=German |journal=De Ingenieur in Nederlandsch Indie|volume=1 |issue=4 |pages=190 |doi= |hdl=1887.1/item:2451806 |access-date= |url=}}</s>

# {{ok}} <s>{{cite journal |ref=none |last1=von Koenigswald |first1=G.H.R. |title=Fossil mammals of Java part 6 Machairodontinae from the lower Pleistocene of Java |journal=Proceedings of the Koninklijke Nederlandse Akademie van Wetenschappen Series B Physical Sciences |volume=77 |issue=4 |pages=267–273 |year=1974 |id={{INIST|PASCALGEODEBRGM7520066100}} }}</s>

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For (in order) [[Fortunictis]], [[Stenailurus]], [[Miomachairodus]], [[Sivapardus]], [[Panthera dhokpathanensis]], and [[Hemimachairodus]] (the last two)

Thanks, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 16:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

:{{doing}} nos. 4 and 6. Struck out on the rest. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 20:26, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

::@[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]], Are you sure about the publication information you cite for number 6? I'm looking at what I think is volume one issue 4 and just can't find that article. Also the link you provide is to a november issue, issue 4 is from April. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 19:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, no, I'm not certain about the publication information; I tracked it down as a potential source second or third-hand a while ago. Doing a search again, I can't track down where the issue 4 part came from, just that it is in volume 1. My apologies. [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 21:15, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

::::Ok, I will look through volume 1. Unfortunately it has no real page numbers. But I will do my best, and ping you when I track it down. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 22:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

:::::@[[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]]: I'm very interested in no. 4 and no. 6 too, please send me a copy too. – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 10:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

::::@[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] and @[[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]], I've got no. 4. Doc, will send it to you. ST, can you email me and I will respond with a pdf [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 14:41, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

:::::Email sent. [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 15:32, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

::::::{{sent}} [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 15:36, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

:::::::Not to be rude, Eddie, but the article refers to a "Plate I", with 4 figures, that isn't in the PDF. Do you also have that or no? Happy editing, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 23:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

::::::::responding via email [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''^{[[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]}'' </small> 23:33, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

: {{doing}} nos. 1, 2, 7 – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 22:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

::@[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]]: Please send me a [[Special:Email/Doc Taxon|wikimail]] to provide you with the nos. 1, 2, 7. – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 21:09, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]]: no 6. is at pages 185–201 in vol. 1, unfortunately I don't know the issue number, but volume 1 has issues 1-5. – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 21:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

:::Done. Thank you! [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 21:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

::::{{sent}} nos. 1, 2, 7 – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 21:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|SilverTiger12}} Please clarify what portions of this request are complete and what portions are still outstanding. The tradition method is to <s>strike</s> the list items that you no longer need. Next week I'll be at a library that has 3, 4, and 6, but am reluctant to spend my limited time there scanning hundreds of pages if you may not still need them. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 19:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

::{{ping|Worldbruce}} I have done so. Only 3, 5, and 6 are still needed. Unfortunately I don't think I can narrow down the needed page ranges in 3 and 6. Although for 3 the ''most'' needed part is the section on felids (cats), ''Miomachairodus'' in specific, if you only have limited time. And for 6, close to the same: section on felids, ''Epimachairodus zwierzykii'' in specific. Happy editing, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 19:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

:::{{u|SilverTiger12}}, [[Special:EmailUser|email me]] for #3. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 18:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

::::Done. Happy editing, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 21:26, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

::::: {{u|SilverTiger12}}, sent (in two emails due to size). --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 17:31, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

::::::Received. Thank you! [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 14:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

:In case it helps at all, here are some URLs for #5:

:* https://opac.nlp.gov.pk/index.php?p=show_detail&id=97043&keywords=

:* https://www.google.com/books/edition/Proceedings_of_Pakistan_Congress_of_Zool/LIQPAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22On+a+Collection+of+Siwalik+Carnivora%22&dq=%22On+a+Collection+of+Siwalik+Carnivora%22&printsec=frontcover

:** WorldCat entries: https://search.worldcat.org/title/923378119, https://search.worldcat.org/title/62447645, https://search.worldcat.org/title/159811874, https://search.worldcat.org/title/918261940

:** You can preview different little bits of it by searching through the book for "Panthera" and "pathanensis".

:Let me know you think if it would be useful for me to request an interlibrary loan (which can be physical or digital) for chapter 105 of "Proceedings of Fourth Pakistan Congress of Zoology" through my university. The second WorldCat link says that University of Minnesota, Twin Cities has a copy, and both it and my university are in the Big Ten Academic Alliance, so it should be more likely to be accepted and should be processed faster, compared to it being at some unaffiliated institution.

:[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 02:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

::A lead! Thank you! I've had a hard enough time finding this source to say yes, please request the interlibrary loan. I think that might actually be what I'm looking for. Happy editing, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 18:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

:::Perfect! I've requested an ILL for it; I'll let you know when I get updates on its status. [[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 20:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

::::{{ping|SilverTiger12}} I've received the scan. It's short enough that I'll just transcribe it here:

{{blockquote |source=p. 51 |text=[...]

105. On a Collection of Siwalik Carnivora<br />

Abu Bakr<br />

Department of Zoology, University of the Punjab, Lahore<br />

In the Department of Zoology, Punjab University, the total number of the speciments of fossil Carnivora is eighteen. More collection was made last year. The total number of species that discovered is sixteen. Of these four i.e. ''Vishnucyon nagriensis'', ''Sivaonyx minor'', ''Lycaena felina'' and ''Panthera dhokpathanensis'' are new. The other speciments also given additional information about the known species. The work has been carried out under Pakistan Foundation, Project No. P-PU/Bio (102).

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::::This is page 51, and https://search.worldcat.org/title/62447645 says the book is 51 pages in total, so this is presumably the last page, so that's it.

::::[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 20:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::Hm, so I'm still looking for the monograph itself. Thank you though. [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 21:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

::::::Oh right, hmm... Should I try requesting an inter-library loan and see if my university's librarians can figure something out, perhaps borrowing it or getting a scan from the National Library of Pakistan? [[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 01:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::::It's a long shot, but I'd appreciate it. [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 01:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

::::::::Makes sense. I've submitted a request for it. I'll let you know when I get any updates. I'm required to give a deadline, so I gave them about 6 months, since this could be slow. [[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 07:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::Status update to keep this thread from going stale: My ILL request is still active, though the last status update was my university's libraries sending a manual request to some library (presumably the National Library of Pakistan?) on February 14th. I'm not sure how long this might take, but I hope I'll get it eventually...

:::::::::Meanwhile, my difficulty in finding this one inspired me to compile a table of all of the information I could find about all of their monographs: [[Biological Society of Pakistan#Monographs]].

:::::::::[[User:Sollyucko|Solomon Ucko]] ([[User talk:Sollyucko|talk]]) 04:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

{{To|SilverTiger12}} Issues of ''De Ingenieur in Nederlandsch Indie'' are readable [https://colonialarchitecture.eu/obj?sq=id:jn:15 here]. I didn't find that article, though I didn't look very hard. Maybe that collection is incomplete or maybe the volume or issue is wrong. Alas there is no search engine. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]^{<small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small>} 02:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|SilverTiger12}} Article #6 is in volume 1, issue 11, a pdf of which can be downloaded [https://colonialarchitecture.eu/islandora/object/uuid%3A7e67db99-9fa9-4ef0-921b-b1c141f5b6ca/datastream/PDF/download here]. It's on pages 21-40 of the pdf, in print they're numbered IV 185 - IV 202. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 07:47, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

::Omigosh, thank you!! Online-accessible sources are the best. Happy editing, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 16:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

== Gambit Chess Openings by Eric Schiller ==

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* {{cite book |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Schiller |first=Eric |year=2001 |title=Gambit Chess Openings |work= |publisher=Cardoza Publishing |___location= |page= |url=https://www.google.com/books/edition/Gambit_Chess_Openings/3UYKAAAACAAJ?hl=en |access-date= |isbn=9781580420389 |issn= |oclc= }}

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For [[Draft:Devin gambit]]. I'm looking at page 16 of [https://texaschess.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Texas-Knights-Apr-May-Jun-2021.pdf this source], which states that there is coverage of the gambit in Schiller's book ("Devin’s 3. g4 is also in the Eric Schiller’s Gambit Chess Openings, where Schiller assesses the position at move 3 as better for Black"). Unfortunately the book is not at the IA library, and it's not searchable on google. I'd only need the portion of the book that relates to this particular gambit (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g4), but I don't have page numbers owing to the lack of google preview.

Thanks a bunch,

— [[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed&nbsp;hawk</span>]]&nbsp;_{[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span>]]} 04:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

:According to the ToC, it could be p. 570 of the book. I found some discussion of this gambit in another of his books, ''Unorthodox Chess Openings'' (p. 201-202), which I sent you via wikimail. It is a very short fragment but maybe it will help. [[User:Szmenderowiecki|Szmenderowiecki]] ([[User talk:Szmenderowiecki|talk]]) 00:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)