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:"Three months is a relatively short period of time for some of the review processes, especially GAN". There are points for GA, but also for GA reviews, which should speed up the process. [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 02:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

== Translations ==

How will translations of articles from developing countries be evaluated? [[User:HarveyPrototype|HarveyPrototype]] ([[User talk:HarveyPrototype|talk]]) 16:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

:this is a good question! @[[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] thoughts? <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 16:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

::I see the value as adding them to the wiki, {{u|Sawyer777|Sawyer}}. I'd personally score them equally as creating articles. Articles in, say, [[Burmese language]] that are not yet in the english wiki probably are equally important to Myanmar than an article that doesn't exist in either, if not more so. However, if others feel that they should be scored less I am open to that possibility. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 17:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

:::i agree that translations are very valuable, and something we should encourage - so we have something to work off of, how would 5 points be for a score? <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 23:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

:::"I'd personally score them equally as creating articles." Check again, we don't score the mere creation of articles. We score created articles that pass the DYK process, which guarantees some basic quality. The problem with translations is that anyone with google and a basic fluency to check the results can translate articles from other wikis and quickly farm points. Just a mere 40 semi-bot translations, 2 or 3 hours at most, and you get as many points as someone who promotes a featured article. It would be too easy to derail the contest's purpose that way. It may be better to treat translation like any other new article, only scores if it passes DYK (or if it is promoted to higher levels in record time). [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 02:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

::::this is a great point... i don't do translation work at all so i forgot about the existence of machine translation for a moment. i agree with your idea of requiring it pass DYK criteria. <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 02:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

::::{{u|Cambalachero}}, my statement works regardless of if they are currently scored or not. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 08:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

== Greenland ==

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| result = consensus for '''developing''' [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#483D8B;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#483D8B;">talk</span>]]) 05:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

: And it turns out this was already done 🤷‍♀️ [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#8B4513;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#8B4513;">talk</span>]]) 05:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Should Greenland be classified as "developed" (ineligible), "developing" (eligible), or "least developed" (1.5x multiplier)? [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#0645AD;">talk</span>]]) 00:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

* '''Developing''' as proposer. On the map, it's "no data", but the first sentence of [[Economy of Greenland]] calls it {{tq|small, mixed and vulnerable}}, it is heavily dependant on Denmark ({{tq|the economy is critically dependent upon substantial support from the Danish government, which supplies about half the revenues of the Self-rule Government [the government of Greenland], which in turn employs 10,307 Greenlanders out of 25,620 currently in employment (2015)}}), and {{tq|Unemployment nonetheless remains high, with the rest of the economy dependent upon demand for exports of shrimp and fish.}} [[User:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Queen of Hearts</span>]] ([[User talk:Queen of Hearts|<span style="color:#0645AD;">talk</span>]]) 00:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

*:i concur with this <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 00:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

*::+1. Apart from basic numbers, the Greenlandic Inuit are under heavy environmental stress which threatens their old ways of life that depend on the sea ice, now disappearing fast. They have to transform their economy entirely, towards something more urbanised and economically viable. This too, I would say, is a sign of a developing economy.

*::Also consider the HDI of 0.786, which although classified as "high", lags significantly behind the rest of the Danish Realm - Denmark is at 0.952 and the Faroes are at 0.950. And all the other IMF-designated developed countries are well above 0.800. [[User:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI]] (<small>^{[[User talk:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|talk to me!]]}/_{[[Special:contributions/Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|my edits]]}</small>) 06:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

*:::definitely! not to mention the colonial dynamics, which while not directly correlated with development, are relevant contextually. <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 06:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

*::::Soooo... are they counted? Shall I notify them? [[User:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI]] (<small>^{[[User talk:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|talk to me!]]}/_{[[Special:contributions/Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|my edits]]}</small>) 16:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

*:::::pinging @[[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] if they have any last-minute objections but i'd say just go for it - i'll update the contest pages as well <templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#618A3D">... [[User:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">sawyer</span>]] * <small>he/they</small> * [[User talk:Sawyer777|<span style="color:#618A3D">talk</span>]]</span> 17:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

*::::::No objections here, ping appreciated, {{u|Sawyer777|Sawyer}}. — ♠ [[User:Ixtal|Ixtal]] ^{( [[User talk:Ixtal|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Ixtal|C]] )} &#8258; <small> [[WP:2024DCWC|Sign up for the 2024 DCWC!]] — [[Non nobis solum]] </small> ♠ 20:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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