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:As an added note, the "N/a" template uses the "data-sort-value" attribute, so sorting it versus the "N/A" text may order them differently unless the same attribute is used on the text version. [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 14:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
::Thank you for the in-depth response on this. I played around with the table, although it is very limited, and both seem to sort in the same manner. I guess with the widespread use of the template and outside style manuals saying that is more preferable, I think I can end the edit war with using that template.[[User:EnigmaMcmxc|EnigmaMcmxc]] ([[User talk:EnigmaMcmxc|talk]]) 17:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
== Does this violate accessibility guidelines? ==
Recently, I edited [[List of feature films with gay characters]] to change the chart from a format where all the countries are bunched together into one column, as the below example shows:
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width: 100%"
|-
! style="width:4%;"| Year
! style="width:20%;"| Title
! style="width:13%;"| Character(s)
! style="width:13%;"| Actor
! style="width:36%;"| Notes
! style="width:9%;"| Country
! style="width:4%;" class="unsortable"| {{Abbr|Ref(s)|Reference(s)}}
|-
| 1968
| ''[[The Mercenary (film)|The Mercenary]]''
| Ricciolo (Curly)
| [[Jack Palance]]
|
| Italy, Spain, United States
| <ref name="ridjim">{{cite news|last1=Ridley |first1=Jim |title=''The Mercenary'', Locked and Loaded Two Nights Only |url=https://www.nashvillescene.com/arts_culture/i-the-mercenary-i-locked-and-loaded-two-nights-only/article_1c78df67-e4c0-533d-91a3-fa6bae0c3728.html |work=[[Nashville Scene]] |date=8 December 2012}}</ref><ref name="belnic">{{cite web|last1=Bell |first1=Nicholas |title=The Mercenary (1968) {{!}} Blu-ray Review |url=https://www.ioncinema.com/news/disc-reviews/the-mercenary-1968-the-mercenary-1968-blu-ray-review-sergio-corbucci-blu-ray-review |website=Ioncinema.com |date=7 November 2017}}</ref>
|}
I changed it to this:
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width: 100%"
|-
! style="width:4%;"| Year
! style="width:20%;"| Title
! style="width:13%;"| Character(s)
! style="width:13%;"| Actor
! style="width:36%;"| Notes
! style="width:9%;"| Country
! style="width:4%;" class="unsortable"| {{Abbr|Ref(s)|Reference(s)}}
|-
| rowspan="3"|1968
| rowspan="3"|''[[The Mercenary (film)|The Mercenary]]''
| rowspan="3"|Ricciolo (Curly)
| rowspan="3"|[[Jack Palance]]
| rowspan="3"|
| Italy
| rowspan="3"|<ref name="ridjim" /><ref name="belnic" />
|-
| Spain
|-
| United States
|}
One user [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_feature_films_with_gay_characters&type=revision&diff=1097087409&oldid=1097084298 reverted this], saying "Do not add rows just for countries. Don't muck up the list and its formatting. Don't make the table more complicated for editors to edit" while [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_feature_films_with_gay_characters&type=revision&diff=1097096971&oldid=1097087409 I said] that "putting all the countries into one row makes the chart inaccessible... and I'd argue it violates [[WP:ACCESSIBILITY]]. And it doesn't add too much complexity and it can be easily followed". Instead of changing anymore of the page, I decided to post here. If this isn't the right place, then I'd be glad to post this somewhere else instead. Is the change I did in line with MOS for a table such as this? Should it be used? [[User:Historyday01|Historyday01]] ([[User talk:Historyday01|talk]]) 19:50, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|talk:Historyday01}} Both are accessible, but the second one is more complex for the screen reader to read making it more difficult to understand, so simpler table structures are always preferred. In addition, the simpler comma delimited list better follows [[MOS:NO-TABLES]] recommendations when comparing a comma list to cells. [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 20:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
::Hmm. That makes sense. I will admit that I've done the second option more than the first as I believed that using the commas would mess up the "country" category. But, I'm totally ok with a simpler table anyhow, as it makes it easier to edit. [[User:Historyday01|Historyday01]] ([[User talk:Historyday01|talk]]) 21:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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== MOS:COLHEAD potential workaround? ==
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