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: I think we're in agreement about what I see as the main issue... that type declarations aren't a major contributor to Java verbosity. I have no problem if someone wants to talk about Java's verbosity or any other perceived flaw, I just feel like we should accurately reflect what is unique to Java as opposed to what is a paradigm that someone would find problematic in any language. For example, see the previous objection to getters and setters, and the objection that Java isn't a procedural programming language. [[User:The Hokkaido Crow|The Hokkaido Crow]] 21:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
== Properties ==
Hi. In an attempt to clarify what I thought was one of the other editors' objections to Java I wrote this:
<blockquote>Properties — public fields that are tied to code rather than directly to data — are not supported in Java. A more verbose convention involving get and set methods is popular and has substantial tool support.</blockquote>
The Hokkaido Crow reverted my edit this with the comment ''it appears to have factuality problems'', but s/he didn't elaborate. What are the factually problems?
[[User:Ben Arnold|Ben Arnold]] 22:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
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