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:You will need to update {{para|QII_FORMAT|C T of I}} in [[Template:WikiProject Palaeontology]]. Note that the module is set up so these categories are only populated when they exist, so once you move the category they should start filling up again &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you so much!! Not sure how I missed that… <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/they) 21:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Redirects not being added to PIQA category ==
 
I notice that on [[Talk:Mount Gorton]] ({{-r|Mount Gorton}} redirects to [[Wilson Hills]]), all 3 WikiProjects are classified via 3 {{para|class|Stub}}, {{tl|WPBS}} is not, and [[Talk:Mount Gorton]] is not added to {{clc|Pages using WikiProject banner shell without a project-independent quality rating}}. Could redirects be made to be included in the category, and eventually corrected? And any/all other page types also being omitted? &nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span>&nbsp; 13:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:It is not in that category because it is a redirect and doesn't need a quality rating. The {{para|class|stub}} is just ignored on such pages. What needs to be corrected? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::Since [[Talk:Mount Gorton]] refers to a redirect, {{para|class|Stub}} should be removed from the 3 WikiProjects.
::I see now that {{c|Pages using WikiProject banner shell without a project-independent quality rating}} is not an appropriate category name for such cases (as it implies they need a rating), but I still think it would be worth tracking these pages that use unnecessary quality ratings. &nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span>&nbsp; 14:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::In that case it should probably be in [[:Category:WikiProject banners with redundant class parameter]] as the class stub is redundant (and incorrect, as redirects don't have ratings). [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 15:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Perhaps we could rename to [[:Category:WikiProject banners with ignored class parameter]]? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::"Redundant" seems most appropriate for proper articles which have a rating both inside a WikiProject and the shell.
:::::"Ignored" seems most appropriate for these redirects (and other similar pages) which have irrelevant class parameters. &nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span>&nbsp; 15:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::They are the same in that the class parameter may safely be removed without having any effect. Do we need two separate categories? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::With the speed at which these categories are being cleared, I'd say we don't. Less categories to watch. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 16:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::The way that the pages in these 2 would-be categories are fixed is different. In 1, WPBS's {{para|class}} is kept. In the other, WPBS's {{para|class}}, if found, is removed. Someone working on these categories in the future might not know to check the redirect-status of the page before proceeding, and perform the wrong operation.
:::::::But, if there is to be only 1 category to contain both of these cases, then I think "unnecessary" is better, as it can describe both "redundant" & "ignored" ~ [[:Category:WikiProject banners with unnecessary class parameter]]. 2nd choice would be "ignored". With category text describing this distinction, regardless of the chosen descriptor. &nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span>&nbsp; 16:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)&nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[WP:DGAF|dgaf]])</span>&nbsp; 16:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)